don't forget that Italy never achieved a real democracy status by western
standards.
have a look at Amnesty International reports, and the freedom of press
reports, and you'll find out things you wouldn't expect out of a EU member
country!



On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM, marc garrett
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi xDxD,
>
> I look forward to reading an English version of Luca Neri's publication
> in the future, I'm sure this will happen. If anyone wishes to buy it
> (Italian only) - here is a link
> http://www.bandashop.it/product.php?id=71&pos=0
>
>  >which is just as if person X, today, would go to the police and say
> "oh, well,
>  >i THINK that xDxD (or marc garrett, or anyone else) is a criminal".
> And the
>  >police come after me. With no proof or documentation apart from some
>  >screenshots in which a series of  *rows show numbers separated by dots
> next
>  >to a date and a string containing the name of a movie, dot AVI* .
>
> Whether people are good, bad, innocent or criminals is not necessarily
> an important criteria in relation to judging if someone is a threat - it
> is more about eliminating 'the potential of authentic change' which
> dares to exist on its own terms, beyond and further than corporate or
> government orientated realms of control.
>
> The only proof needed is suspicion. A psychologically enduced Panopticon
> state of play, festering on ignorance and paranoia which in turn
> incorporates a savage reliance of modern day witch trials - scaring
> those who may know what is going on in the world to take stock and
> witness others going through the process of ritualized, public
> humiliation from bullying authorities. Many classified as criminals,
> whilst the real criminals enjoy their extreme forms of liberation via
> their privelaged positions.
>
> marc
>
>
>
>  > Helo there!
>  >
>  > yes it is incredible.  even more as the whole process began with the
> trialfor k  being started with a unilateral accusation, sponsored by
>  consulents of the editors' and publishers' organizations present in
> italy (such as SIAE and FMI).
>  >
>  > which is just as if person X, today, would go to the police and say
> "oh, well, i THINK that xDxD (or marc garrett, or anyone else) is a
> criminal". And the police come after me. With no proof or documentation
> apart from some screenshots in which a series of  *rows show numbers
> separated by dots next to a date and a string containing the name of a
> movie, dot AVI* .
>  >
>  > but then again, italy's not the easiest of places to be during these
> last few years. reminds a lot of the 1940's, in a new mediatical form.
>  >
>  > we co-organized with RomaEuropaFAKEFactory and Art is Open Source a
> meeting on/with the Pirate Bay on the same day as the presentation in
> the senate, together with Luca Neri, who recently published a book on
> the whole issue:
>  >
>  >
>
> http://www.artsblog.it/post/3146/speciale-reff-part-2-reffternoon-al-flexi-con-luca-neri-21-marzo-ore-1800
>  >
>  > and then there has been a big event which received lots of media
> coverage:
>  >
>  > http://www.no-copyright.net/
>  >
>  > (sorry, the reports are in italian, but they might prove useful anyway)
>  >
>  > nothing has changed. :(
>  >
>  > take care!
>  > xDxD
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:35 PM, marc garrett
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>  >
>  >     Italian Pirate Bay Trial in the Making.
>  >
>  >     Following the Swedish verdict, Italy is now considering starting
> its own
>  >     trial against the people involved with The Pirate Bay. This would
> be the
>  >     first criminal prosecution against the Pirate Bay 'founders' outside
>  >     their home country.
>  >
>  >     During August last year, The Pirate Bay was "censored" in Italy when
>  >     ISPs were ordered to block access to the worlds largest BitTorrent
>  >     tracker. The Pirate Bay appealed the block and eventually won the
> court
>  >     case. In October the Court of Bergamo ruled that no foreign
> website can
>  >     be censored for alleged copyright infringement.
>  >
>  >     However, with the Swedish verdict against The Pirate Bay in hand,
> the
>  >     Italian justice authority is now looking into the possibility of
>  >     starting their very own trial against the Pirate Bay 'operators'.
>  >     Interesting to say the least, because The Pirate Bay and those
> involved
>  >     with the site have no direct link to Italy.
>  >
>  >     more...
>  >
> http://torrentfreak.com/italian-pirate-bay-trial-in-the-making-090502/
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