Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO: a host of whys...HYSTORY...HYSTERI...A...
 MANIK,OCTOBER 2009...
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  From: Simon Biggs 
  To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
  Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO: a host of whys


  I am not grumpy :( grumble !!

  Simon Biggs

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  From: Renee Turner <[email protected]>
  Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
<[email protected]>
  Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:14:24 +0100
  To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
<[email protected]>
  Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO: a host of whys

  Hi Marc, Dougald and all,

  Lists can have an odd dynamic.  It's often hard to keep up with the  
  pace of posts (especially when the DIWO rhythm kicks in) and not  
  having face to face contact can evoke perhaps more aggressive  
  responses - most of all because unless you're a super writer/reader  
  it's tough at times to grasp the tone.  Not to mention, the "who said  
  what loop" is amplified as more mails are added to the pile.

  As cheesy as it seems, I've found people on this list to be incredibly  
  generous with one another.  In fact, this is one of the few lists I  
  remain a fan of. (And I am an oldie on nettime, faces, empyre and even  
  the IDC list)  What makes netbehaviour cool?  An email like this from  
  Marc where he tries to rethink how something is moderated, Karen's  
  post about reintroducing ourselves to list members,  Simon's grumpy  
  response about Utopia (please read this with affection as that mail  
  made me crack a smile-the x punk in me sympathized ;-) and Olga's  
  carefully considered post trying to catch up on various threads  
  mentioned. (and let's not forget about the ongoing/moving Sondheim  
  stream and the re-worked heads that have been rolling around) For some  
  odd reason, counter to other list cultures, people seem to care. They  
  don't just academically challenge, but they share a genuine concern  
  over "the state of affairs". That also means ideas are sometimes  
  delivered half-baked and raw.   I'm hoping the glitches, bumps and  
  crashes are part and parcel of the project and are as crucial to the  
  process of discussion as the careful reconsiderations and the humble  
  apologies :-)

  Okay, who am I?
  My name is Renee Turner.
  I'm a member of De Geuzen: a foundation for multi-visual research.
  You can find our collaborative work here: http://www.geuzen.org/
  I also write both digital and analog narratives.  That work can be  
  found here: http://www.fudgethefacts.com/
  Next to this, although I was born in Texas, I've live in the  
  Netherlands since the early nineties.
  Currently I work too many teaching jobs to keep my family in a house....
  I'm the lover of a wonderful Italian man. We have a precocious six  
  year old boy who keeps us on our toes.
  I'm a mixer of disciplines.
  Lastly I have taught art since the mid nineties at various  
  universities and art schools.
  oh and I live with a cat that's trying to dominate me...

  Okay, guess that's it....I look forward to meeting others on the list  
  and ploughing forward with DIWO in spite of (or embracing) the  
  ruptures..... and I hope I have time to contribute as things move  
  along :-)

  xx Renee




  On Oct 30, 2009, at 11:07 PM, marc garrett wrote:

  > Hi Dougald,
  >
  >> "Welcoming" was the word Marc used to describe this list to me, I  
  >> think.
  >
  > I think I mentioned that there was a variety good quality people on  
  > this
  > list and that they would be open and would welcome you, something  
  > along
  > these lines anyway.
  >
  > At this point, I am at a 'real' loss of what else one should say or  
  > even do.
  >
  > I take the blame for putting you in such a harsh place, I'm sorry, I
  > expected something different - that'll teach me.
  >
  > I'm going to take a rest and rethink a few things - I feel quite
  > disturbed by it all, as well as many other things similar.
  >
  > I may feel different tomorrow...
  >
  > marc
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