>>>
>>>  Bakhtin might disagree -- matter flows into language and
>>>  language
>>>  flows into matter (whatever matter and language may be).
>>>

Just want to say I don't agree with the assertion above, if it does (or 
doesn't) represent B's position. If you look at Soviet diamat philosophy, 
information formed a permanent problematic within (dialectical) material- 
ism; the way out turned on medieval ideas of reflection. The 'whatever' 
above unpacks similarly, since there are ontic issues at work. Language 
also doesn't possess the genidentity that matter does, which might be the 
heart of it. Finally, cosmology tends to unpack matter itself, as well as 
information, albeit differently (vis-a-vis the holographic universe).

- Alan
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