Helen just hit the proverbial nail. We do not speak of gated neighbourhoods but gated communities. It is because a particular neighbourhood is composed of self-selecting neighbours that it becomes a community. There are other examples. Ghettoes sometimes have these qualities - collective identity forged in and through adversity. However, the modern city is composed as less well defined social structures, due to the fragmentation of our culture into many sub-cultures (I'd argue that's a good thing). These sub-cultures are sometimes location-specific but generally are geographically dispersed. Community, in this situation, is not a function of neighbourhood, as Helen observes. Netbehaviour is (arguably) an exemplar of how communities are now forged in a networked world. As Marc and Ruth and other Netbehaviourists are aware, this form of emergent ontology within a social space in part defined by its networked mediality, is generating significant interest - whether it be the discussions we have here or on the Institute of Distributed Creativity list or in specific research projects, for example:
http://www.elmcip.net/ or http://side-creative.ncl.ac.uk/communities/symposium11/ Best Simon On 01/05/2011 18:49, "helen varley jamieson" <[email protected]> wrote: > but are they really "neighbours" if we've chosen them? there's a real > difference between "community" & "neighbourhood", that has to do with > choice. "loving thy neighbour" is more of a challenge because (like > family) the thing is that you don't have a choice about who they are ... > > h : ) > > On 1/05/11 6:26 PM, list|marianne wrote: >> And, then of course there's the concept of the "open neighbourhood", >> and the question of how "open" open is, when everyone -- truly >> everyone - is genuinely welcome or free to move in, potentially >> putting the established neighbourhood (aims, agendas, neighbourliness) >> at risk . Perhaps that is the thing about online neighbourhoods -- we >> select, to the extent we can and because we can, who our neighbours >> are. Returning to the fact that "loving thy neighbours" is a lot >> easier to do when you know (or chose) who your neighbours are. >> >> Love to all. >> M >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From: *list|marianne <[email protected]> >> *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Sun, 01 May 2011 16:41:09 +0100 >> *To: *netbehaviour <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Visualising the netbehaviour neighbours >> - and the neighbourhood >> >> Hi Helen, >> I specifically wanted to do netbehaviour, as I've been hanging out >> here for a while and I'm interested in what it means to be here. It >> seems to be my kind of hood in many ways, but as Annie, said, I'm not >> really a neighbor, I'm not really in. (Which may be one very >> understandable reason why no-one but you has responded). >> So, at the moment the call is extended to different [actual and >> potential] neighbours as well. When I come to the point of actually >> visualising "the" neighbourhood, I'll need to make decisions. Will it >> be specifically this one, Or, one made up of those who chose to >> respond? Then, what would that mean? [Editing the neighbourhood! >> Letting it fail.] >> >> -- but, it's interesting. >> All best >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From: *helen varley jamieson <[email protected]> >> *Reply-To: *[email protected], NetBehaviour for networked >> distributed creativity <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Sun, 01 May 2011 17:12:38 +0200 >> *To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Visualising the netbehaviour neighbours >> - and the neighbourhood >> >> hi marianne, >> i'm curious about what neighbourhood you are aiming to visualise; in >> the email you sent to this list, you specified the netbehaviour >> neighbourhood, but on the web site where you're posting the >> portraits, you don't mention netbehaviour; it's an open invitation >> to anyone who wants to be part of the neighbourhood. in that sense, >> the neighbourhood you're visualising will be a new & different one >> to the netbehaviour neighbourhood ... the neighbourhood of wherever >> your invitation has reached? (altho the netbehviour neighbourhood is >> indeed open to anyone who wants to be a part of it). >> >> neighbourhood is a really interesting concept to explore, since it's >> changing so much at the moment. we don't choose our neighbours & >> even if we don't interact with them a lot they can have a huge >> impact on our lives (& us on them ... ). >> >> h : ) >> Simon Biggs [email protected] http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ [email protected] http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
