...CARNEGIE WAS SADIST AND BLOODSUCKER...BUT...MAIN PROBLEM FOR US/TODAY 
IS...WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT...HIS DONATION FOR CULTURE/LIBRARY,BUILDINGS,AWARD 
YOU MENTION ... HERE/...OR HIS MONSTER EXPLOIT OF WORKERS...FOR HIS 
'HUMANITARIAN' WORK IN SERBIA SOROS WANT /ONLY/ MINE 'TREPCHA' RICHEST WITH 
COPPER /IN WHOLE WORLD/...WORTH FEW BILLION THOUSAND TIME MORE THAN HIS 
HUMANITARIAN DONATIONS TO SERBIA...IF WE NEED ANSWER ON THOSE QUESTIONS WE HAVE 
TO USE ENTIRE NEW LOGIC AND INVENT NEW SEMANTICS...THAT'S ONLY WAY TO ANSWER 
THAT QUESTIONS ...I CAN'T SEE NOW VALID ANSWER...IT'S WAY OUT OF ECONOMY OR 
MARKET LOGIC/THAT JUST LOOK LIKE PART OF IT/...MANIK...SEPTEMBER...2011...
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ana Valdés 
  To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity 
  Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Horror Episodes in the Net.Art History


  And I react to the discussion about Soros. I mean the guy is a ruthless 
capitalist making his money from speculations with money, but but...Carnegie 
does the same and yesterday the Carnegie award for an important Nordic painter 
was awarded. 100000 Euro to a Finnish painter. Among the chosen were 12 
painters from all the Nordic countries. I know some of them privately, people 
with leftist opinions, voting the left parties, they don't see any 
contradiction among their ideas and being sponsored by Carnegie, one of the 
biggest banks in the world, one of Wall Streets holy cows.
  I attended 1996 or 1997 a conference organized by Sandy Stone's in Budapest. 
Guess who sponsored the whole event, Soros of course.
  And why is Soros to blame when we are all helping Zuckerberg to be a 
billionaire? I have seen many examples of Soro sharing his wealth, Bill Gates 
does the same through his fundation (in despite the Gates fundation don't seems 
to have a clue what they are sponsoring or giving money too, many African are 
critical towards their choice of partners). But I have not seen one occasion 
where Zuckerberg is giving or sharing some profit.
  I should really welcome a discussion where Facebook, Soros and anothers were 
exposed.
  And I know I am touching a mined terrain, I have been living with grants from 
the Swedish state many years, ok, grants to my writing not to myself, but...
  Why should a state grants be more "decent" or more "acceptable" than Soros or 
Facebooks's or Gates?
  Ana


  On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Andreas Maria Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:

    Deeply rooted island dwellers xenofobia

    Both continental (Europe) and Empire (British-American) related

    'Open' communities tend to absorb the same societal (mis)behaviours as
    their allegedly oppositional  precursors

    It is only a matter of time when enemies are friends again and the
    reconstructionalist mobs are ruling as they did before

    Nothing is more difficult and painstakely frustating then building
    communities without falling in the deep dark abyss of human failure of
    miscommunication

    Andreas Maria Jacobs

    w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
    w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl


    On Sep 10, 2011, at 11:37, "Andrej Tisma" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > Reminder of Nettime, Syndicate ... and Netochka Nezvanova
    >
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