thanks helen that's really kind of you d:}
On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson <[email protected]> wrote: > i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to respond. :) > > > On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote: >> >> i'd love to know more >> >> d :) >> >> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i asked >>> tamiko& she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds >>> >>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general >>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be taken >>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand how >>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular artform >>> offensive. >>> >>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ... >>> >>> h : ) >>> >>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote: >>>> >>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the >>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it working, >>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my >>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! But >>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko >>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this >>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting. >>>> >>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about this! >>>> >>>> dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one of >>>>> the >>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and critical >>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a particularly >>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have meant? >>>>> >>>>> bests >>>>> Ruth >>>>> >>>>> Please forward to interested parties: >>>>> >>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important media art >>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored augmented >>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open >>>>> conversation." >>>>> >>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource >>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to talk >>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR Occupy >>>>> Wall Street project. >>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html >>>>> >>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - literally >>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the screen, >>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!" >>>>> >>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and proclaimed >>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible with >>>>> the existing order and systems. >>>>> >>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, but >>>>> fear today's interventionist art? >>>>> >>>>> Videomakers Unite! >>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679 >>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media collectives >>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look back >>>>> at >>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates this >>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the fields of >>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices. >>>>> >>>>> - Tamiko Thiel >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Tamiko Thiel >>>>> Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM >>>>> (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media) >>>>> Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration >>>>> http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/ >>>>> >>>>> Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit >>>>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html >>>>> >>>>> Email: [email protected] >>>>> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> >>> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >>> http://www.make-shift.net >>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >>> ____________________________________________________________ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > -- > ____________________________________________________________ > > helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst > [email protected] > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.make-shift.net > http://www.upstage.org.nz > ____________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
