Thanks mez- this is very interesting to me - will have a good look! thanks, dave
On 4 February 2012 21:18, mez breeze <[email protected]> wrote: > i'm also keen to find out more about Gansig's reasoning for his offensive > stance? > > + i've been running a blog at augmentology.com for years [2008] that has > both articles + links regarding AR [Augmented Reality]. > > > On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 4:00 AM, dave miller <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I've put together tons of links (on Delicious) on the subject of >> augmented reality - might be of interest: >> http://delicious.com/davemilleruk >> >> dave >> >> On 4 February 2012 15:41, Mark Hancock <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'd love to find out more as well, if we can? >> > >> > I do love a good open and uncensored public debate about the arts. As >> > long as it falls within my own aesthetic and cultural paradigms without me >> > having to open up to the possibility that there are new and emerging art >> > forms that I might not like. >> > >> > Hey, maybe I should apply to run Transmediale next year? >> > >> > Love, >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > On 4 Feb 2012, at 15:29, dave miller wrote: >> > >> >> thanks helen that's really kind of you >> >> >> >> d:} >> >> >> >> On 4 February 2012 15:27, helen varley jamieson >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> i'm not sure if she's on this list - i'll email her & ask her to >> >>> respond. :) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 5/02/12 1:23 AM, dave miller wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> i'd love to know more >> >>>> >> >>>> d :) >> >>>> >> >>>> On 4 February 2012 15:19, helen varley jamieson >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> it is hard to understand what he could have found offensive - i >> >>>>> asked >> >>>>> tamiko& she said that he didn't say anything substantive; it sounds >> >>>>> >> >>>>> like he was saying that he finds augmented reality art in general >> >>>>> offensive, rather than tamiko's work - altho demanding that it be >> >>>>> taken >> >>>>> off-screen is a pretty strong response. but it is hard to understand >> >>>>> how >> >>>>> a director of a media art festival could label one particular >> >>>>> artform >> >>>>> offensive. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> we could ask tamiko to tell us more ... >> >>>>> >> >>>>> h : ) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On 4/02/12 10:38 PM, dave miller wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> thanks for this Ruth - I'm working with augmented reality at the >> >>>>>> minute. As you say it is very difficult technically to get it >> >>>>>> working, >> >>>>>> and also difficult (for me at the moment) to find ways use it in my >> >>>>>> art, to extend what I've been doing. My brain is under pressure! >> >>>>>> But >> >>>>>> also, as you say, it's fascinating. I'll have a good look at Tamiko >> >>>>>> Thiel's work - I'm very interested in how artists are using this >> >>>>>> medium, and to use it for intervention is especially interesting. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> What did Gansig mean? Why offensive? I'd like to know more about >> >>>>>> this! >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> dave >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 4 February 2012 12:05, ruth catlow<[email protected]> >> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thought this was an interesting development. Tamiko Thiel is one >> >>>>>>> of >> >>>>>>> the >> >>>>>>> view artists I have encountered who is creating thoughtful and >> >>>>>>> critical >> >>>>>>> artworks working with augmented reality. I think this is a >> >>>>>>> particularly >> >>>>>>> hard (and fascinating) form to work with. What could Gansig have >> >>>>>>> meant? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> bests >> >>>>>>> Ruth >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Please forward to interested parties: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Today at the Transmediale in Berlin, Germany's most important >> >>>>>>> media art >> >>>>>>> festival, Transmediale director Kristoffer Gansing censored >> >>>>>>> augmented >> >>>>>>> reality artist Tamiko Thiel in a discussion billed as an "open >> >>>>>>> conversation." >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> During the panel discussion "25 years of transmediale / reSource >> >>>>>>> Activism VIDEOMAKERS UNITE!," Thiel was invited by a panelist to >> >>>>>>> talk >> >>>>>>> about "Reign of Gold," her augmented reality artwork for the AR >> >>>>>>> Occupy >> >>>>>>> Wall Street project. >> >>>>>>> http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/reign-of-gold.html >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Gansing - who was not moderating but sat in the audience - >> >>>>>>> literally >> >>>>>>> shut her up, and demanded that her website be taken off the >> >>>>>>> screen, >> >>>>>>> saying he finds augmented reality art "offensive!" >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Ironically Gansing themed his festival "in/compatible" and >> >>>>>>> proclaimed >> >>>>>>> that it would look at artistic movements that were not compatible >> >>>>>>> with >> >>>>>>> the existing order and systems. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Why does Transmediale celebrate yesterday's interventionist art, >> >>>>>>> but >> >>>>>>> fear today's interventionist art? >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Videomakers Unite! >> >>>>>>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679 >> >>>>>>> An open conversation about video art and net culture, media >> >>>>>>> collectives >> >>>>>>> and counter-publics ... Videomakers Unite! takes a critical look >> >>>>>>> back >> >>>>>>> at >> >>>>>>> the 1980s and 90s discourse around video and the net, and relates >> >>>>>>> this >> >>>>>>> to the production of present-day counter-cultures within the >> >>>>>>> fields of >> >>>>>>> political and artistic, individual and collective practices. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> - Tamiko Thiel >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> Tamiko Thiel >> >>>>>>> Visiting Professor, UdK Berlin, IZM >> >>>>>>> (Berlin University of the Arts, Inst. of Time-Based Media) >> >>>>>>> Technologies of Non-linear Dramaturgies >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration >> >>>>>>> http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit >> >>>>>>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Email: [email protected] >> >>>>>>> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >>>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >>>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -- >> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst >> >>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> >>>>> http://www.make-shift.net >> >>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> >>>>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >>>>> [email protected] >> >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> >>> http://www.make-shift.net >> >>> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> >>> ____________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > NetBehaviour mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > -- > Reality Engineer> > Synthetic Environment Strategist> > Game[r + ] Theorist. > ::http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/human-readable-messages/17341088 :: > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
