do you think he might have been actually forcing (performing?) the question
from the theme/curatorial statement? ie stating something is
offensive/incompatible then seeing how people react? extending the
conference/session into the ether/post-discussions to see what happens
next.


*"Contrary to the fear of the incompatible, so prevalent in the age of
cloud-computing, the festival raises the question of what happens when
incompatibility is brought to the fore rather than hidden away in the dark
underbelly of digital culture?"
http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/tm2012.html
*

KG: "Yeah, if I may "intervene" uh, first maybe we can switch the screen
instead of seeing this really, uh, for me offensive AR art, he he, this is
a re-intervention into the Transmediale, so - "




On 1 March 2012 12:04, mez breeze <[email protected]> wrote:

> I still find this disturbing = not at all satisfactory in terms of an
> adequate explanation.
>
> Has the concept of "offense" been unpacked by Gansing? Why does he find
> this particular AR work [and by proxy, yourself Tamiko] "offensive"?
>
> Chunks,
> mez
> @netwurker
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tamiko Thiel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear Netbehaviorists,
>>
>> Many thanks for your interest in the incident during the "Videomakers
>> Unite!" panel discussion at the Transmediale 2012.
>> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679
>>
>> Thank you Ruth, for having forwarded my email to the list in the first
>> place, and my apologies for taking so long to get back to you all! I was
>> asked not to post anything more until we had made multiple efforts in
>> private conversations to clear up what had happened, and give Kristoffer
>> Gansing a chance to respond. At this point however it is clear that he
>> and I have diametrically opposite perceptions of what happened.
>>
>> It turns out that he does not find augmented reality art offensive, just
>> me and my art. I have no problem with that.
>>
>> I had been asked by Kathy Rae Huffman, an invited panelist and
>> internationally renowned curator, to prepare a website and give a live
>> demo of my work, as part of the "open conversation" character of the
>> "Videomakers Unite!" panel, as previously arranged with the moderator.
>>
>> My perception at this point is that Gansing felt that if he didn't like
>> my art and the manner in which I presented it, it was within his right
>> as festival director to overrule the moderator and the invited panelist,
>> and stop my presentation. At a festival that was explicitly celebrating
>> 25 years of interventionist and activist art, I found it to be a very
>> surprising exercise of power and very ironic in the context of the
>> curatorial statement, which said:
>>
>> "Contrary to the fear of the incompatible, so prevalent in the age of
>> cloud-computing, the festival raises the question of what happens when
>> incompatibility is brought to the fore rather than hidden away in the
>> dark underbelly of digital culture?"
>>
>> I have set up a webpage with my perception of what happened, with cue
>> times and a link to the audio file (all 2.5 hours of it, thanks to Sonja
>> Schachinger!) in case anyone wants to form their own opinion.
>> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/tm2012.html
>>
>> Take care, and thanks again for the support - Tamiko
>>
>> --
>>  Tamiko Thiel
>>  Email:   [email protected]
>>  Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
>>
>>
>>  Venice Biennial 2011 - Manifest.AR guerrilla AR Infiltration
>>  http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/
>>
>>  Istanbul Biennial 2011 - official collateral exhibit
>>  http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/ii/images.html
>>
>>
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