was alcohol involved?
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From: Tamiko Thiel <[email protected]>
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Transmediale and the power of a director
Hi Mez, Hi Kath,
I really don't know what he finds "offensive" about my work or about me,
I hadn't ever had any communication with him before the incident. That's
also what puzzled me about how emotional he seemed about it, which
seemed too much for it to be simply a performance - and strange because
we hadn't interacted before.
There were "planned interventions" during the festival - did he react in
the same way to the artists who did those? If he reacted in the same way
to them I could believe that he was "performing the question from the
curatorial statement." If he did not, I would guess that it was a very
personal and probably honest reaction to me and my work.
take care, Tamiko
Am 01.03.2012 04:28, schrieb Kath O'Donnell:
> do you think he might have been actually forcing (performing?) the
> question from the theme/curatorial statement? ie stating something is
> offensive/incompatible then seeing how people react? extending the
> conference/session into the ether/post-discussions to see what happens
> next.
>
>
> /"Contrary to the fear of the incompatible, so prevalent in the age of
> cloud-computing, the festival raises the question of *what happens when
> incompatibility is brought to the fore rather than hidden away in the
> dark underbelly of digital culture?*"
> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/tm2012.html
> /
>
> KG: "Yeah, if I may "intervene" uh, first maybe we can switch the screen
> instead of seeing this really, uh, for me offensive AR art, he he, this
> is a re-intervention into the Transmediale, so - "
>
>
>
>
> On 1 March 2012 12:04, mez breeze <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> I still find this disturbing = not at all satisfactory in terms of
> an adequate explanation.
>
> Has the concept of "offense" been unpacked by Gansing? Why does he
> find this particular AR work [and by proxy, yourself Tamiko]
> "offensive"?
>
> Chunks,
> mez
> @netwurker
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Tamiko Thiel <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> Dear Netbehaviorists,
>
> Many thanks for your interest in the incident during the
> "Videomakers
> Unite!" panel discussion at the Transmediale 2012.
> http://www.transmediale.de/node/20679
>
> Thank you Ruth, for having forwarded my email to the list in the
> first
> place, and my apologies for taking so long to get back to you
> all! I was
> asked not to post anything more until we had made multiple
> efforts in
> private conversations to clear up what had happened, and give
> Kristoffer
> Gansing a chance to respond. At this point however it is clear
> that he
> and I have diametrically opposite perceptions of what happened.
>
> It turns out that he does not find augmented reality art
> offensive, just
> me and my art. I have no problem with that.
>
> I had been asked by Kathy Rae Huffman, an invited panelist and
> internationally renowned curator, to prepare a website and give
> a live
> demo of my work, as part of the "open conversation" character of the
> "Videomakers Unite!" panel, as previously arranged with the
> moderator.
>
> My perception at this point is that Gansing felt that if he
> didn't like
> my art and the manner in which I presented it, it was within his
> right
> as festival director to overrule the moderator and the invited
> panelist,
> and stop my presentation. At a festival that was explicitly
> celebrating
> 25 years of interventionist and activist art, I found it to be a
> very
> surprising exercise of power and very ironic in the context of the
> curatorial statement, which said:
>
> "Contrary to the fear of the incompatible, so prevalent in the
> age of
> cloud-computing, the festival raises the question of what
> happens when
> incompatibility is brought to the fore rather than hidden away
> in the
> dark underbelly of digital culture?"
>
> I have set up a webpage with my perception of what happened,
> with cue
> times and a link to the audio file (all 2.5 hours of it, thanks
> to Sonja
> Schachinger!) in case anyone wants to form their own opinion.
> http://mission-base.com/tamiko/AR/tm2012.html
>
> Take care, and thanks again for the support - Tamiko
>
> --
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> Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
>
>
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>
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Website: http://www.mission-base.com/tamiko/
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http://manifestarblog.wordpress.com/thiel_venice-2011/
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