walter & birgit were at transmediale this year doing a workshop: http://transmediale.de/content/commodifyus-data-commodification
h : ) On 30/04/15 3:31 10PM, marc garrett wrote: > Hi Rob, > > Thanks for your references in response to the article I posted th > eother day. Your last sentence said "Regarding social media workerism, > if people want to be paid for using Facebook there's already a market > in that but it's probably not one they'd like to participate in" and > you pointed us to 'bot-bubble click farms' by Doug Bock Clark, which > is very interesting - http://bit.ly/1JUrJHA > > Not sure if you remember -- anyhoooo... I write an article/interview > in 2013 on furtherfield called 'Commodify Us: Our Data Our Terms' > http://www.furtherfield.org/features/reviews/commodify-us-our-data-our-terms > - now, I interviewed Walter Langelaar about the project Commodify.Us. > > "A significant value offered by the Commodify.Us platform is the power > to manage our own data. The simple act of downloading our own data > from Facebook, and then uploading it to Commodify.Us supports us to > rethink what all this information is. What once was just abstract data > suddenly becomes material that we can manipulate. Alongside this > realization arrives the understanding that this material was made by > our interactions with all these platforms, and that other people are > spying on us and making money out of it all. Once this data material > is uploaded onto the Commodify.Us platform, it asks if we want this > stuff to be a product under our own terms, or if we wish to make art > out of it using their tools. > > This is a cultural shift that demonstrates how contemporary > Hacktivists are developing software that promises to offer realistic > service infrastrucutures. When I interviewed Charlie Gere in 2012[8] > he said that these artists "are not part of the restricted economy of > exchange, profit, and return that is at the heart of capitalism, and > to which everything else ends up being subordinated and subsumed. Thus > they find an enclave away from total subsumption not outside of the > market, but at its technical core." For me, this kind of work is of > central importance to the contemporary era, and it only occurs where > artists cross over into territories where their knowledge of networks > directly contributes to the building of alternative structures of > social independence." > > Now I'm wondering if any one knows whether the project carried on, or > developed into something else? > > chat soon. > > marc > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Rob Myers <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > On 2015-04-29 06:11, marc garrett wrote: > > Facebook isn’t a charity. The poor will pay by surrendering their > data > > > > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/04/does-internetorg-deprive-latin-americans-real-internet > > "RedPaTodos, a coalition of Internet users in Colombia, adds that > Internet.org will never be free as advertised because the cost > will be paid by users with their personal data (amounting to more > than 8 million Colombians, in the case of local partner Tigo.) " > > internet.org <http://internet.org> demonstrates the > corporate-friendly failings of focussing on internet access in > itself without a guiding idea of freedom (or justice if we must). > > It's possible to imagine a future in which we control and gain > passive income from the data that Facebook currently profits from > aggregating and using against us: > > https://idcubed.org/bitcoin-burning-man-beyond/ > > But such fantasies serve mostly to promote locked-down computing > systems and fuel the instrumentalized narcissism that is behind > both the selfie and social media workerism (the idea that we > should be paid for Being Ourselves on Facebook): > > http://public.dhe.ibm.com/common/ssi/ecm/en/gbe03620usen/GBE03620USEN.PDF > > "Most IoT business models also hinge on the use of analytics to > sell user data or targeted advertising. These expectations are > also unrealistic. Both advertising and marketing data are affected > by the unique quality of markets in information: the marginal cost > of additional capacity (advertising) or incremental supply (user > data) is zero. So wherever there is competition, market-clearing > prices trend toward zero, with the real revenue opportunity going > to aggregators and integrators." > > Regarding social media workerism, if people want to be paid for > using Facebook there's already a market in that but it's probably > not one they'd like to participate in: > > > http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121551/bot-bubble-click-farms-have-inflated-social-media-currency > > (via bruces on ello) > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- helen varley jamieson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net http://www.upstage.org.nz
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