yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ... interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's the case in nz.
h : ) On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote: > hi, > > yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as paper > planes, kind of electoral sequences. > > the "greens".. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only and ever > more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not for art & > culture unless its entertaining..) > > Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an environmentally > romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of moral duty and > care for the perceived "natural" while looking for ideologically > inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital. Indeed, if > the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that > green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in > brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory held. Ex > Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than Labour's voters.. > Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool sounding name > "kitkat" - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg - spreading tall > tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands.. > > ...but am digressing... > > I think point re voting and general elections, might be that in fact > they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic processes > from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is on going > regardless of any electoral outcome. No? > > Cheers! > > xxx > > quitter.se/if > > > Quoting helen varley jamieson <[email protected]>: > >> does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting system? that means >> it's always going to be an either-or situation, the lesser of 2 evils. >> since nz adopted a proportional representation system in 1996, numerous >> small parties have had representation in parliament & currently the >> green party is the third largest with just over 10% (equating to 14 >> seats in parliament). >> >> the nz system isn't perfect, & we also experienced a similar shock in >> the election last year when the sitting neoliberals cruised back in >> (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least we have a growing & >> viable green party to vote for, with some really good green MPs. >> >> h : ) >> >> On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote: >>> Edward said: "If Labour had said 'We're going to look after the most >>> vulnerable members of society properly, and if that means putting >>> taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they still wouldn't have >>> won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of most press >>> coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack of charisma as a >>> leader - but at least we would have had a genuine alternative to vote >>> for. I voted Green." >>> >>> an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media, and an overwhelmingly >>> unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear coming out of >>> peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self righteous >>> [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of prejudices for another. >>> >>> i voted green even though i expected if i told anyone i'd be informed >>> it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered at/looked-down-a-nose-at, >>> by people in my life. some people say who you vote for isn't meant to >>> be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the balls to say i >>> voted green, but have played it safe so far. >>> >>> a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you don't want to vote >>> for to prevent another party you don't want to vote for, imo. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> >> -- >> helen varley jamieson >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net >> http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- helen varley jamieson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net http://www.upstage.org.nz
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