yes, time for electoral reform in the uk! On 10/05/15 10:44 45PM, dave miller wrote: > Greens blame Tory majority on Labour's willingness to "accept the > narrative of its opponents" > The Green party's economic spokesperson reflects on Labour and the > media's pandering to the the Tory narrative. > > http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/greens-blame-tory-majority-labours-willingness-accept-narrative-its-opponents > > On 10 May 2015 at 19:50, if <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > Quoting helen varley jamieson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > yup, i do agree about card deck rearrangements ... > interesting about tory-greens in the uk, i don't think that's > the case > in nz. > > > I'd take the view re greens in the uk with a pinch of salt made of > the fact they are a rather sizable tent with various shades, that > I personally have more views than a political insight, and that > the focus was re brighton local greens. > > cheers! > > ahaxxx > > > > h : ) > > On 9/05/15 5:51 39PM, if wrote: > > hi, > > yes - we are still 1st past post, most votes are better as > paper > planes, kind of electoral sequences. > > the "greens".. i live in the constituency of the 1st, only > and ever > more popular - locally it seems - green mp. (she cares not > for art & > culture unless its entertaining..) > > Being green here in the uk is, imho, a bit like an > environmentally > romantique Tory of the 19th century. A strong sense of > moral duty and > care for the perceived "natural" while looking for > ideologically > inspired solution within paradigms of power and capital. > Indeed, if > the local elections are any indication to varify/falsify that > green-tory lineage, i noticed that when greens came to rule in > brighton, they did it via wards that were previously tory > held. Ex > Cons found it rather easy to switch into greens than > Labour's voters.. > Also, local green head honcho, while sporting a cool > sounding name > "kitkat" - is, in my view, a blairite at heart. eg - > spreading tall > tales about local refuse cleaners' wage demands.. > > ...but am digressing... > > I think point re voting and general elections, might be > that in fact > they are just to do with card deck re-arrangements. Civic > processes > from attempts to have a fearless yet melancholic life - is > on going > regardless of any electoral outcome. No? > > Cheers! > > xxx > > quitter.se/if <http://quitter.se/if> > > > Quoting helen varley jamieson <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>>: > > does britain still have a first-past-the-post voting > system? that means > it's always going to be an either-or situation, the > lesser of 2 evils. > since nz adopted a proportional representation system > in 1996, numerous > small parties have had representation in parliament & > currently the > green party is the third largest with just over 10% > (equating to 14 > seats in parliament). > > the nz system isn't perfect, & we also experienced a > similar shock in > the election last year when the sitting neoliberals > cruised back in > (this was before ponytailgate ... !!!), but at least > we have a growing & > viable green party to vote for, with some really good > green MPs. > > h : ) > > On 9/05/15 12:36 27AM, James Morris wrote: > > Edward said: "If Labour had said 'We're going to > look after the most > vulnerable members of society properly, and if > that means putting > taxes up, we'll put taxes up' then probably they > still wouldn't have > won - given the overwhelmingly right-wing slant of > most press > coverage, not to mention Milliband's extreme lack > of charisma as a > leader - but at least we would have had a genuine > alternative to vote > for. I voted Green." > > an overwhelmingly right-wing slant of the media, > and an overwhelmingly > unsympathetic population. some of the shit i hear > coming out of > peoples mouths is utterly depressing - the self > righteous > [anti-racists amongst others] swap one set of > prejudices for another. > > i voted green even though i expected if i told > anyone i'd be informed > it was a wasted vote, or laughed at/sneered > at/looked-down-a-nose-at, > by people in my life. some people say who you vote > for isn't meant to > be talked about. sometimes think i should grow the > balls to say i > voted green, but have played it safe so far. > > a wasted vote is a tactical vote for one party you > don't want to vote > for to prevent another party you don't want to > vote for, imo. > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > -- > helen varley jamieson > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > -- > helen varley jamieson > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.talesfromthetowpath.net > http://www.upstage.org.nz > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
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