Perhaps nothing has changed, nothing has been learned - because learning and changing are already on another t(r)ack? In the U.S. Trump and racism as you know are legitimized - after so many decades of work against racism etc. Now we're veering back into what I think of as barbarism. Perhaps what you're doing can be tured into itself as well? Examining and even undermining the grounds of the investigation?

Just thinking here. Who was the writer? I became interested recently in performers in the female orchestra of Auschwitz (who later were sent to Bergen-Belsen); they also testified (those who survived). What is music or art or resistance or the somatic effects under those conditions?

Are you in London? Perhaps we can meet up? And let us know how everything you're doing plays out..

Best! Alan

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017, aharon wrote:

Thanks Alan.

Ofcourse these trials are not playful. Well, not in my mind at any rate.

However, the nurnberg trials have, i think, a language that links a certain 
kind of way to imagine imagination between the perpetrators of the holocaust 
and their judges. (eg the placement of the trials in nurnberg was explicitly 
linked with the nazi rallies.)
For me one of the many horrors of the holocaust comes from a short piece of 
writing by an Auschwitz survivor where its outline how they felt after being 
saved. The feeling of great pain and for that person on an ongoing fashion - 
that nothing has changed. Nothing was learned. Therefore perhaps indeed a 
holocaust, or a version of it, can occur at any given time... (the person who 
wrote them lines ended up killing themselves, as far as i recall.. One of the 
witnesses in Eichmann's trials..)
zizek talks at times about the in-ability to learn from something like the 
holocaust by pointing out that indeed such an event has no educational value. 
Brutality is no way to teach people indeed.

Though perhaps when time comes into it, there are ways to learn despite all the 
brutality?

Cheers and all the best!
aharon
xx

Bootnote:
the "wonder" in the language is that of imagination, that of an If X? and If Y? 
rather than that of stuff being full of wondrous owe, etc..
details:
http://ifxyz.xyz

June 20 2017 8:58 PM, "Alan Sondheim" <sondh...@panix.com> wrote:
When I was 11-12, I read the Nurenberg War Trials volumes on the medical cases. 
I'm Jewish, there
were relatives who died under the Nazis. The medical cases were something else, 
something more
brutal if that can be believed. The volumes had photographs. I can't imagine 
anything but a kind of
brutality and infliction of pain that seemed and seems as bad as anything in 
the world. For me
there's nothing playful about those trials. I've been haunted by the 
images/texts since then (for
example a Jew in an airtight chamber, the air slowly evacuated, what happens). 
For me and others I
know, there's no wonder and the language of sensations ends in nothing but 
anguish and darkness.
There are issues of bearing witness.
Solzhenitsyn is useful here. http://www.alansondheim.org/lightattheend.mp4
Maybe I'm the wrong one for this work, in which case of course apologies.

Best, Alan

On Tue, 20 Jun 2017, aharon wrote:

Hiyas,

Hope this finds you well indeed!

The following text is from a language - if N?rnberg-Ness - that has began to 
evolve and am going to
focus upon on Thursday. If anyone fancy evolving this too - it's yours! :)

if N?rnberg-Ness ?
if N?rnberg-Mess-Ness ? ;)

Cheers and all the bests!
aharon
xx
http://itchy.5p.lt

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N?rnberg
??

If (N?rnberg) ^ ?

if (NurMberg ^) ^ ?

if (NMbergNess ^ ) ^ ?
if (NMBNS ^) ?
if (nbs) ^ ?
if (NBNS)^?
if (NMB

NS

) ^ ?

N?rnberg, as an evolving language of sensations, a wonder, a search from one's 
imagination?
N?rnberg - the sensation of N?rnberg?

Wagner's imagined musical theatre encountered, frictioned, by the 1930's Nazis 
with their own
imagination. A nazi imagination regarding the German historical narrative and 
indeed Wagner's own
perception.
Hence we get the N?rnberg rallies staged within Wagnerian-inspired theatrical 
architecture.
Since the N?rnberg rallies came to be theatrical show of Nazi propaganda, their 
effect upon other
people's psyche seems to have been such that when justice court theatrical 
shows of putting Nazis
on trials post WW2 was considered - N?rnberg seemed like an apt place. A place 
to close the circle
the Nazi imagination opened all these years ago at the beginning of the 1930's.
However, here, I think, we get a new friction of imaginations - > The 
imagination of the
conqueror's own "good" cause, with the imagination of court trials as bringing 
justice. (Justice
either through theatre and/or despite and in-spite of the theatricalities on 
show.)

Here, I think we collide into and with Temporal imaginations from N?rnberg.
The imagination about a revered person's mind - > as if they are part of a time 
based sequence that
requires embodiments that are both "out of the mind" and out of time for 
sharing minds'
imaginations. ( ie an art-linked time might be perceived as a time when we 
share - we link up -
wonders, imaginations.)

The imagination from the past. The imagination of present and future from how a 
certain past is
being imagined. (Both nazis and allied forces took an imagined past and tried 
to dress it up with
bodies that suited them. The nazis dressed up Both Wagner and German mythology, 
and the allied
forces dressed up their imagination of and from the N?rnberg rallies.)

The imagination from embodiment. > As if the temporarily of imagination 
requires a body that is
"outside" of whatever was imagined?
I might be imagining someone actually reading these lines - however, isn't this 
very imagination
enough regardless of whether someone is actually reading or even going to read 
this?
Where is that Body?
In many ways, I think, for example in how a line is being structured. In the 
fact that even if no
one will ever read this, I keep editing. So if you happened to read this, this 
is my imagination
even if you have never read it. >
Similarly, I think, the imagination from Wagner, the Nazis and the allies 
perhaps mistreated itself
at the very point that people opted for embodiments that are "outside" the 
imagination?

Here perhaps there's a meta collision from imaginations:
The imagination in general and its nature, colliding with imagination that 
imagines the nature of
imagination to be in a great need for embodiments outside. The imagination in 
general collides with
a dualistic perception of imagination itself?
------------------------------------------------

I thought, initially, to go and do N?rnberg in the city of N?rnberg by visiting 
relevant sites,
picking up their imaginary characters into a language.
However, after a while, it seemed rather limited and limiting - to be focused 
on N?rnberg as a sort
of geography rather than a practice of a language in and of itself.
Since the name N?rnberg is with an N in german minds and M in english - i 
thought to find another
similar place to begin with. Step in Kuln, or Cologne..?
To get the language of imagination in link to time and place - as well as of 
itself (ie how one
might imagine themselves) - It seems that perhaps to begin with the language 
can do with guide
books.
Say a guidebook from around 100 years ago.
https://ia902205.us.archive.org/13/items/rhineincludingb00firgoog/rhineincludingb00firgoog.pdf
How did it imagine Cologne? How did it imagine itself? Lets collide that with 
imagining the places
- some of them - nowadays, and we get a sense of N?rnberg ?

an
if (NMbergNess ^ ) ^ ?
an
if (NMB

NS

) ^ ?

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-----------------------------

* Since we are talking about things to do with Nazis, and some of the language 
here treats them as
thinking, feeling, sensing and cultural beings - human beings - perhaps it 
might be cool to note
that this has nothing, NADA, ZILCH in terms of support agreement and tolerance 
for Any, Anytime and
Anything they have done and that people are still doing with nazism in mind.
Indeed, I hope some of the concerns here are to do with critique of stuff 
people keep doing Without
Nazism in mind - that is, in fact, slightly pretty much like that ideology in 
terms of operation
rather than explicit meanings.
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