It's the men who have traditionally gotten the most attention, but there have always been many brilliant women; when I did Individuals in 1974 for Dutton, the ratio was pretty much even, and when I curated later at Nexus in Atlanta, it was the same. This is an issue and prejudice on the part of cultural sexism, not on the part of the great number of amazing woman artists I've known. The museum director is obviously way out of line here and I wonder if he thinks all the men he loves are white.
Alan On Wed, 18 Oct 2017, Gretta Louw wrote:
Had another frustrating (yet, fundamentally unsurprising) incident since I sent that email in which a museum director matter-of-factly told me that all of the greatest artists in history were men and after I strenuously argued against that, we continued discussing the work we were cooperating on? well let?s just say that in the end, a few days later, the museum decided that they didn?t have the budget after all to acquire the piece of mine that they?d been interested in. I wonder what changed?? ;) On 18. Oct 2017, at 10:40, marc.garrett <marc.garr...@protonmail.com> wrote: Hi Gretta, I scrolled the page & just saw that it was mainly men, perhaps it's synonymous with aspects of Modernism ;-) wishing you well. marc Marc Garrett Co-Founder, Co-Director and main editor of Furtherfield. Art, technology and social change, since 1996 http://www.furtherfield.org Furtherfield Gallery & Commons in the park Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery Currently writing a PhD at Birkbeck University, London https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett Just published: Artists Re:thinking the Blockchain Eds, Ruth Catlow, Marc Garrett, Nathan Jones, & Sam Skinner Liverpool Press - http://bit.ly/2x8XlMK Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas Local Time: 16 October 2017 2:11 PM UTC Time: 16 October 2017 13:11 From: sondh...@panix.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Body Art was both male and female, Gina Pane, Collette, Marina Abramovich, etc. but also Vito Acconci, Dennis Oppenheim, Genesis P. Orridge, but also Hannah Wilke, etc. A pretty mixed group. Most of the hard-core conceptualists were male, but there are also Adrian Piper, the Guerilla Girls, Alice Aycock and Nancy Wilson Kitchel, Martha Wilson, etc., who spanned conceptualism and physical/person production as well. * Alan On Mon, 16 Oct 2017, Gretta Louw wrote: It?s interesting to me that artists working with immaterial / non-existent artworks in the past are so overwhelmingly male, but I don?t know yet what it means?http://www.modernedition.com/art-articles/absence-in-art/the-invisibl e-artw ork.html Something perhaps about the other side of the body art coin perhaps? On 15. Oct 2017, at 17:15, ruth catlow <ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org> wrote: I'd be up for thinking this one through. Let's do it. On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote: Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the first one hadn't worked. On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote: Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual work of art that didn't actually exist at all - we could use some ideas from Curt Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it - and market shares in it via the Blockchain? Proceeds to Furtherfield, unless the value went above a trillion dollars, in which case I want a cut. Edward On 11/10/17 18:56, Rob Myers wrote: On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow wrote: Perfectly put Helen! Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership ain't my idea of utopia. """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down again. This, she supposed, was the aspect of art that she had the most difficulty understanding. Picard, if that was the man's name, was speaking with a broker in New York, arranging the purchase of a certain number of "points" of the work of a particular artist. A "point" might be defined in any number of ways, depending on the medium involved, but it was almost certain that Picard would never see the works he was purchasing. If the artist enjoyed sufficient status, the originals were very likely crated away in some vault, where no one saw them at all. Days or years later, Picard might pick up that same phone and order the broker to sell. 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