Is it possible to contribute computing resources to make builds available?
> > On Nov 10, 2025, at 6:07 PM, Greg Troxel <[email protected]> wrote: > > Riccardo Mottola <[email protected]> writes: > >> posted this on NetBSD-sparc, but got no answer... so asking here, >> maybe it is an infrastructure problem >> >> I was installing some stuff... and then pkg_add started failing! I >> feared an issue on my stem or network, while, simply all packages >> disappeared from the server: >> >> http://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc/packages/NetBSD/sparc/ >> >> is empty! no 10.x no 9.x packages anymore. At least 10.0 was there and >> 9.4 too I think. >> >> Something went wrong with the 10.0_2025Q3/ upload and previous >> versions where deleted too? >> >> Riccardo > > They were woefully out of date, and we have a policy of only the last > three branches for a slow arch (and 2 for one that can be built in > reasonable time) on the ftp server, because it has finite space, and > running out of space causes all sorts of problems. Generally, contents > of the ftp server are copied to archive.netbsd.org and are available > there. > > The larger issue is that nobody within TNF seems to have been doing > pkgsrc builds for sparc since the end of 2024. There's only so much > data center space and electricity available to the people that do this > as a community service. Builds take more than 3 months of full-tilt > computing. > > If somebody who isn't TNF does e.g. sparc builds: while we won't post > them on our server, we are happy to link to them in a SEE_ALSO file. > > For sparc packages on archive: > > https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/ > > and in particular > > > https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/10.0_2024Q4/ > > https://archive.netbsd.org/pub/pkgsrc-archive/packages/NetBSD/sparc/9.0_2023Q3/All/ > > these are probably exactly what you were pointing to. Mostly that's > just change the pkgin URL s/ftp/archive/ and s/pkgsrc/pkgsrc-archive/. > > It is routine for builds to age out of the server and only be on > archive. What's unusual is that this is coincident with the lack of > arrival of new sparc builds. > > As general information here is the list of package sets on > ftp.netbsd.org, with columns being number of packages and kB. The > 2024Q2 alpha and 2024Q3 sparc64 sets are too old to be on the server, > and will be removed as soon as the 2025Q3 sets catch up. > > The good news is that there is good coverage of 10/11 for varying > architectures, and also 9 for x86/arm. > > > QUARTER: 2024Q2 > 24998 46464032 ./alpha/10.0_2024Q2 > > QUARTER: 2024Q3 > 25055 54695804 ./sparc64/10.0_2024Q3 > > QUARTER: 2025Q1 > 30408 66232004 ./powerpc/10.0_2025Q1 > > QUARTER: 2025Q2 > 26514 76851368 ./aarch64/10.0_2025Q2 > 20872 49485368 ./aarch64/9.0_2025Q2 > 24674 55567684 ./aarch64eb/10.0_2025Q2 > 4227 4187936 ./earmv4/9.0_2025Q2 > 22215 50386112 ./earmv6hf/10.0_2025Q2 > 21198 43769084 ./earmv6hf/9.0_2025Q2 > 25292 65915120 ./earmv7hf/10.0_2025Q2 > 24824 60436320 ./earmv7hf/9.0_2025Q2 > 25911 53790384 ./i386/10.0_2025Q2 > 23457 44188076 ./i386/9.0_2025Q2 > 9926 15142016 ./m68k/10.0_2025Q2 > 3415 2394692 ./m68k/9.0_2025Q2 > 21917 31126524 ./powerpc/9.0_2025Q2 > 10666 11355536 ./sh3el/10.0_2025Q2 > 9295 9135220 ./vax/10.0_2025Q2 > 27142 62503196 ./x86_64/10.0_2025Q2 > 27145 61159212 ./x86_64/9.0_2025Q2 > > QUARTER: 2025Q3 > 24958 78881980 ./aarch64/10.0_2025Q3 > 24889 78594272 ./aarch64/11.0_2025Q3 > 19894 55556588 ./aarch64/9.0_2025Q3 > 22644 53423844 ./aarch64eb/11.0_2025Q3 > 18042 42249412 ./alpha/10.0_2025Q3 > 12870 13911688 ./earmv4/10.0_2025Q3 > 2235 1558104 ./earmv4/11.0_2025Q3 > 20923 51316188 ./earmv6hf/10.0_2025Q3 > 21500 52593504 ./earmv6hf/11.0_2025Q3 > 19923 46635600 ./earmv6hf/9.0_2025Q3 > 23780 66315716 ./earmv7hf/10.0_2025Q3 > 23009 64862496 ./earmv7hf/11.0_2025Q3 > 23321 63580152 ./earmv7hf/9.0_2025Q3 > 24479 54523064 ./i386/10.0_2025Q3 > 24379 53980500 ./i386/11.0_2025Q3 > 24133 52987952 ./i386/9.0_2025Q3 > 7676 13773404 ./m68k/10.0_2025Q3 > 3085 2265620 ./m68k/11.0_2025Q3 > 18725 26520408 ./powerpc/10.0_2025Q3 > 1039 1383412 ./powerpc/11.0_2025Q3 > 12079 16196012 ./riscv64/11.0_2025Q3 > 3741 2579596 ./sh3el/11.0_2025Q3 > 14366 21553988 ./sparc64/10.0_2025Q3 > 6658 7689792 ./vax/10.0_2025Q3 > 3142 2024116 ./vax/11.0_2025Q3 > 25619 63072384 ./x86_64/10.0_2025Q3 > 25515 62856572 ./x86_64/11.0_2025Q3 > 25365 60889432 ./x86_64/9.0_2025Q3 >
