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   1. Re: Netdisco on FreeBSD ([email protected])
   2. Re: Netdisco on FreeBSD ([email protected])
   3. Re: Netdisco on FreeBSD (Kurt Buff)
   4. Re: Netdisco on FreeBSD (Kris Jacobs)
   5. Re: Netdisco on FreeBSD (Oliver Gorwits)
   6. Re: 2 Questions: wrong deployment.yml location and Cisco
      ASA5585 Arpnip/Macsuck (Oliver Gorwits)
   7. Re: core dump during installation of ND2 (Oliver Gorwits)
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Hi,
> Sure - just as soon as there is a port for it in FreeBSD.

Port? if you just follow the install instructions it should prtty much go.

alan



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Hi,
> I believe you, and if it were just me, I'd just do it.
> 
> However, I have a reluctant team and manager to consider, and as they
> are complete *nix novices, I have to get their comfort levels up.
> 
> Without a port (or package, but I *really* prefer ports), this project
> isn't going to fly.

even if you are just following the standard install guides and following
documentation? 

alan



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I'm an unapologetic FreeBSD champion.

I started with Linux (slackware and a few other distros) back in the
2000 era, and was consistently frustrated with it, because very little
made sense to me. I happened to get a job with a small startup whose
product was based on FreeBSD, received only a few minutes tutoring in
it, and felt immediately at home, without clearly understanding why..

Years later I found this
(http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/01), which made
clear to me why I preferred FreeBSD.

But this is way off topic, so I'm going to stop here...

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Jonathan Woodard <[email protected]> wrote:
> Just a curiosity, but is FreeBSD the best OS to start *nix novices on???
>
> I consider myself a *nix moderate, I have netdisco v2 running amazing on LTS 
> 14.04 Ubuntu. FreeBSD has always seem harder to find help with packages. I 
> guess I would think that it would be better to start them on something more 
> mainstream (Ubuntu, CentOS, etc.)  so there is more help available on the 
> interwebs. I had to bring a former boss into the *nix world as well and 
> FreeBSD would have been the last distro I would have considered. After using 
> Ubuntu for a few months, he learned quite well and when I left was able to 
> solve problems on his own thanks to forums, etc.
>
> Forgive me, I certainly am not trying to start a OS war by any means just 
> curious as to your thinking on this? :-)
>
> Also apologies for providing absolutely no help in the matter at all. HAHA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:41 AM
> To: Kris Jacobs
> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Netdisco] Netdisco on FreeBSD
>
> I believe you, and if it were just me, I'd just do it.
>
> However, I have a reluctant team and manager to consider, and as they are 
> complete *nix novices, I have to get their comfort levels up.
>
> Without a port (or package, but I *really* prefer ports), this project isn't 
> going to fly.
>
> Kurt
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Kris Jacobs <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> I'm using Netdisco 2 on FreeBSD 10, it is really easy to install and
>> run from source - you don't need a port.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kurt Buff [[email protected]]
>> Received: Tuesday, 16 Dec 2014, 9:23
>> To: Alan Buxey [[email protected]]
>> CC: Netdisco Users List [[email protected]]
>> Subject: Re: [Netdisco] Netdisco on FreeBSD
>>
>> Sure - just as soon as there is a port for it in FreeBSD.
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Alan Buxey <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> Stop
>>>
>>> Use netdisco2
>>>
>>> alan
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Quick breakdown, summarized from official docs here:  
http://search.cpan.org/~oliver/App-Netdisco-2.008000/lib/App/Netdisco.pm

Get your base FreeBSD 10.1-RELEASE the way you want it - sudo, shell of choice, 
etc.

Install Perl5.20 from ports
Install Perl DBD:Pg from ports
Install Perl SNMP from ports
Create the netdisco user
Install PostgreSQL from ports, configure, start database server, create 
netdisco database
Make sure PgSQL starts at boot up, add to /etc/rc.conf:   
postgresql_enable="YES"

Change to the netdisco user
Install & configure, start Netdisco-daemon, start Netdisco-web
Log into web interface and enjoy!

-KJ



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 09:58
To: Kurt Buff
Cc: Kris Jacobs; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Netdisco] Netdisco on FreeBSD

Hi,
> I believe you, and if it were just me, I'd just do it.
> 
> However, I have a reluctant team and manager to consider, and as they 
> are complete *nix novices, I have to get their comfort levels up.
> 
> Without a port (or package, but I *really* prefer ports), this project 
> isn't going to fly.

even if you are just following the standard install guides and following 
documentation? 

alan



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Hi all,

This is a good discussion to have, it's helpful for the project to see the different needs and opinions.

Personally I've shied away from encouraging any packaging of App::Netdisco. There are various reasons, including support overhead for the core team (even if others maintain the packages), but also that I worry if we want to change the method of installation/upgrade radically at some point, we could get stuck (see sf.net issue #21).

But perhaps most of all I prefer the ability we have to push point releases relatively frequently, via CPAN, and have users execute a painless upgrade. As can be seen from the changelog and issue tracker, the stream of fixes and features might continue for some time yet, and most OS packaging systems don't deal with this constant-updating very well.

(I have no problem reassessing this opinion in the future, changing my mind, or having others still have a go at packaging right now, of course.)

Just my 2p.

regards,
oliver.


On 2014-12-16 14:41, Kurt Buff wrote:
I believe you, and if it were just me, I'd just do it.

However, I have a reluctant team and manager to consider, and as they
are complete *nix novices, I have to get their comfort levels up.

Without a port (or package, but I *really* prefer ports), this project
isn't going to fly.

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:28 AM, Kris Jacobs
<[email protected]> wrote:
I'm using Netdisco 2 on FreeBSD 10, it is really easy to install and run
from source - you don't need a port.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Kurt Buff [[email protected]]
Received: Tuesday, 16 Dec 2014, 9:23
To: Alan Buxey [[email protected]]
CC: Netdisco Users List [[email protected]]
Subject: Re: [Netdisco] Netdisco on FreeBSD

Sure - just as soon as there is a port for it in FreeBSD.

Kurt

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:57 AM, Alan Buxey <[email protected]>
wrote:
Stop

Use netdisco2

alan


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Hi Sebastian,

On 2014-12-15 13:51, Sebastian Rösch wrote:
at first, thanks all the developers for their work on this lovely
piece of software. I now have two questions, that I couldn´t solve
myself.

Robert is exactly on the right track.

You're running the commands as root user. Please run them as "netdisco" user and I'm sure things will begin to work.

regards,
oliver.


Question1:

I installed V2 and I´m really happy with it. Now I tried to upgrade
the installation to 2.029014, but I´m not able to complete the
netdisco-deploy procedure. It seems to be, that the netdisco uses the
default configuration file under

/home/netdisco/perl5/lib/perl5/auto/share/dist/App-Netdisco/environments.


And not that file under /home/netdisco/environments/

Where can I change the path to the correct deployment.yml?

Error:

#####################

This is the Netdisco II deployment script.

Before we continue, the following prerequisites must be in place:

 * Database added to PostgreSQL for Netdisco

 * User added to PostgreSQL with rights to the Netdisco Database

 * "~/environments/deployment.yml" file configured with Database
dsn/user/pass

 * A full backup of any existing Netdisco database data

 * Internet access (for OUIs and MIBs)

You will be asked to confirm all changes to your system.

So, is all the above in place? [y/N]: y

Would you like to deploy or upgrade your database schema? [y/N]: y

DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned::_on_connect(): Your DB is currently
unversioned. Please call upgrade on your schema to sync the DB. at
/home/netdisco/perl5/lib/perl5/Dancer/Plugin/DBIC.pm line 62

DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed:
DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: DBI
connect('dbname=netdisco','changeme',...) failed: FATAL:  role
"changeme" does not exist at
/home/netdisco/perl5/lib/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1487. at
/home/netdisco/perl5/bin/netdisco-db-deploy line 88 at
/home/netdisco/perl5/bin/netdisco-db-deploy line 88

DB schema update complete.

DBIx::Class::Schema::Versioned::_on_connect(): Your DB is currently
unversioned. Please call upgrade on your schema to sync the DB. at
/home/netdisco/perl5/lib/perl5/Dancer/Plugin/DBIC.pm line 62

DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::catch {...} (): DBI Connection failed: DBI
connect('dbname=netdisco','changeme',...) failed: FATAL:  role
"changeme" does not exist at
/home/netdisco/perl5/lib/perl5/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 1487. at
./netdisco-deploy line 129

#####################

Question2:

I´m trying to arpnip and macsuck a Cisco ASA 5585 but it doesn´t
work… (see attachments) Should that work or do I have to import
other MIBS (from Cisco) ?

P.S.: I can assist with providing Cisco VSS SNMP Information. If a can
assists with providing snmp dumps e.g. then please contact me.

Best Regards

Sebastian




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Hi Guy,

I've not seen this before, but I would make a guess it's something wrong in the compiler toolchain/libraries. The point of failure seems to be building one of the Perl module dependencies of Netdisco (ExtUtils::MakeMaker) which uses your system compiler.

You could add "--verbose" to the end of the command (after "--notest") to perhaps see where it's going wrong. Otherwise, as a workaround, you could install your OS package for ExtUtils::MakeMaker, which hopefully is a recent enough version to satisfy (and hence skip over) the dependency.

regards,
oliver.

On 2014-12-12 19:43, Guy Jacobs wrote:
I've followed the instructions for setup as I've done a couple times
before, but I've never seen this happen:

[netdisco@mars ~]$ curl -L http://cpanmin.us/ | perl - --notest
--local-lib ~/perl5 App::Netdisco
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload  Upload  Total  Spent    Left  Speed
100 291k 100 291k 0 0 303k 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 303k
==> Found dependencies: ExtUtils::MakeMaker
--> Working on ExtUtils::MakeMaker
Fetching

http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/B/BI/BINGOS/ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.04.tar.gz
... OK
Configuring ExtUtils-MakeMaker-7.04 ... OK
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

[netdisco@mars ~]$

I went back to two other machines on which I have successfully
installed in the past and found the same behavior -- it always
coredumps immediately.  I wonder if I've changed something globally
across my OS images or in my network to have caused the issue.

Can you give me a clue as to where I should look for my problem?

Is there any reason I couldn't just tar up my netdisco and postgres
directories and push them to the new host on which I want to run ND?




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