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Today's Topics:
1. Netdot website migration (Carlos Vicente)
2. testing (Carlos Vicente)
3. Re: Cable plant notes (James Andrewartha)
4. Re: Topology issues (James Andrewartha)
5. Re: Cable plant notes (Carlos Vicente)
6. Re: Topology issues (Carlos Vicente)
7. Netdot release 1.0.1 available for download (Carlos Vicente)
8. Session cookie: UNSET (Jiann-Ming Su)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 11:41:14 -0400
From: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] Netdot website migration
To: netdot-users <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Dear all,
The machine that hosts the Netdot website and mailing lists is having
hardware problems. We are in the process of migrating everything to a
new machine.
The website and mailing lists will be down for most of today. I hope to
have it all up and running by the end of the day.
Apologies for the inconvenience.
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cv
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 16:59:19 -0400
From: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] testing
To: netdot-users <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
This is just a test, please ignore.
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cv
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:25:20 +0800
From: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Netdot-users] Cable plant notes
To: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
On 07/08/12 01:42, Carlos Vicente wrote:
> On 8/6/12 4:07 AM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>> On 04/08/12 02:50, Carlos Vicente wrote:
>>> On 8/2/12 12:32 AM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>>>> There's often two ways to view the same data, a simple table view and a
>>>> customised view, cf:
>>>> /netdot/cable_plant/edit.html?table=BackboneCable
>>>> /netdot/cable_plant/cable_backbone.html?id=NEW
>>>
>>> I've just made some changes that should improve this a bit.
>>
>> Could you update the Backbone Cable of cable_planet/management.html to
>> use cable_backbone.html?id=NEW as well? Bonus points for prefilling one
>> of the closets, but not really necessary.
>
> cable_plant/management.html does not exist. Not sure what you are
> referring to.
I meant cable_plant/closet.html, not sure how I ended up with
management.html.
--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 10:47:05 +0800
From: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Netdot-users] Topology issues
To: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
On 04/08/12 03:17, Carlos Vicente wrote:
> On 8/2/12 3:06 AM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>> Is there a way to preference which discovery
>> protocol goes into the database?
>
> I'm afraid not.
Hmm, OK. I'll just turn off CiscoDP on our inter-switch links.
>> Incidentally, it takes 35 minutes to poll for topology, as it tries to
>> use SNMP to contact every single phone. I haven't set up
>> update_devices.pl to run from cron yet.
>
> If your phones are all within their own address space, you can use:
>
> EXCLUDE_UNKNOWN_DP_DEVS_FROM_BLOCKS
>
> to list those blocks, and the topology discovery will not try to contact
> them.
They are, so that's easy enough.
>> What devices are supposed to be in Netdot? Switches/routers, vmware
>> hosts, servers, desktops/laptops, IP phones? My guess is
>> switches/routers and nothing else, but then why is there a section for
>> IP Phones in the device inventory? Is it whatever I can query via SNMP?
>
> Netdot will discover anything that speaks SNMP. You can leverage SNMP
> communities to separate your network infrastructure from junk like
> printers and the like. Remove "public" from the list in Netdot's
> configuration.
SNMP all the things! I've installed snmpd and enabled lldpd's agentx
support on our Linux routers, let's see if they appear. I might look at
enabling SNMP in ESXi too.
> We do document our IP phones.
So you have phones but not printers in your database? Out of interest,
what model phones do you have? We have Cisco 7965/7975s. Printers I am
somewhat interested in monitoring down the line.
>> Is it possible to exclude devices from the topology graph? Currently our
>> APs are thick IOS devices and so show up, but they just add noise.
>
> Not possible currently.
So your topology graphs have your phones on them?
>> I have a few devices with funny models - ice.132, ice.137, ice.141,
>> enterprises.3955.6.5024, enterprises.3955.6.3.2024.1 - I presume these
>> are because the MIBs don't have them? How do I update/install MIBs into
>> Netdot?
>
> Netdot's support for different vendors depends on a Perl module called
> SNMP::Info. That's a separate project. It comes with a bundle of MIBs.
Ahh, looks like netdisco-mibs-installer in Debian only downloads 0.9,
not 1.0 of netdisco-mibs. I've filed a bug and updated my local version.
Is there any way to update the product for that OID, or do I have to do
it manually or delete it and have it be recreated?
Thanks,
--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:33:30 -0400
From: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Netdot-users] Cable plant notes
To: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On 8/8/12 10:25 PM, James Andrewartha wrote:
> On 07/08/12 01:42, Carlos Vicente wrote:
>> On 8/6/12 4:07 AM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>>> On 04/08/12 02:50, Carlos Vicente wrote:
>>>> On 8/2/12 12:32 AM, James Andrewartha wrote:
>>>>> There's often two ways to view the same data, a simple table view and a
>>>>> customised view, cf:
>>>>> /netdot/cable_plant/edit.html?table=BackboneCable
>>>>> /netdot/cable_plant/cable_backbone.html?id=NEW
>>>>
>>>> I've just made some changes that should improve this a bit.
>>>
>>> Could you update the Backbone Cable of cable_planet/management.html to
>>> use cable_backbone.html?id=NEW as well? Bonus points for prefilling one
>>> of the closets, but not really necessary.
>>
>> cable_plant/management.html does not exist. Not sure what you are
>> referring to.
>
> I meant cable_plant/closet.html, not sure how I ended up with
> management.html.
>
Done.
Thanks for the suggestion.
--
cv
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 09:36:55 -0400
From: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Netdot-users] Topology issues
To: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> We do document our IP phones.
>
> So you have phones but not printers in your database? Out of interest,
> what model phones do you have? We have Cisco 7965/7975s. Printers I am
> somewhat interested in monitoring down the line.
We use Avaya phones currently.
Discovering printers should be OK. We just don't care about them at
central IT. They are managed by each department.
>>> Is it possible to exclude devices from the topology graph? Currently our
>>> APs are thick IOS devices and so show up, but they just add noise.
>>
>> Not possible currently.
>
> So your topology graphs have your phones on them?
Yes. But the whole topology graph is not very useful for a network of
our size. We mostly use the graphs that focus on a given device and its
neighbors.
>>> I have a few devices with funny models - ice.132, ice.137, ice.141,
>>> enterprises.3955.6.5024, enterprises.3955.6.3.2024.1 - I presume these
>>> are because the MIBs don't have them? How do I update/install MIBs into
>>> Netdot?
>>
>> Netdot's support for different vendors depends on a Perl module called
>> SNMP::Info. That's a separate project. It comes with a bundle of MIBs.
>
> Ahh, looks like netdisco-mibs-installer in Debian only downloads 0.9,
> not 1.0 of netdisco-mibs. I've filed a bug and updated my local version.
> Is there any way to update the product for that OID, or do I have to do
> it manually or delete it and have it be recreated?
>
You can edit the product's name to your liking, and it should stay that way.
Cheers,
--
cv
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 13:53:13 -0400
From: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] Netdot release 1.0.1 available for download
To: netdot-users <[email protected]>, netdot-devel
<[email protected]>, netdot-announce
<[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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Netdot 1.0.1 has been released:
https://osl.uoregon.edu/redmine/projects/netdot/wiki/Download
This release is now considered stable.
For a complete list of changes since 1.0.1-RC3, please see:
https://osl.uoregon.edu/redmine/projects/netdot/wiki/101_ChangeLog
Many thanks to all of you who submitted bug reports, patches and
suggestions!
Please report any bugs via the Redmine interface (e-mail registration
required):
https://osl.uoregon.edu/redmine/projects/netdot/issues
Thank you,
The Netdot Team
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jiann-Ming Su <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] Session cookie: UNSET
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Just installed 1.0.1-RC3 on a RH el6 server.? Looks like Net::LDAP is a
necessary dependency that isn't checked for in "make testdeps".? In RH el6,
it's provided by perl-LDAP rpm.
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Could not load Netdot::LDAP: Can't locate
Net/LDAP.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/netdot/lib
/usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/local/share/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl
/usr/share/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 . /etc/httpd) at
/usr/local/netdot/lib/Netdot/LDAP.pm line 4.\nBEGIN failed--compilation aborted
at /usr/local/netdot/lib/Netdot/LDAP.pm line 4.\nCompilation failed in require
at (eval 804) line 3.\n
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] authentication error code: Undefined
subroutine &Netdot::LDAP::check_credentials called at (eval 806) line 1.\n
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 01:51:43 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
But, now I get this:
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Could not load Netdot::LDAP: Bareword
"LDAP_EXTENSION_START_TLS" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at
/usr/local/netdot/lib/Netdot/LDAP.pm line 120, <DATA> line 522.\nCompilation
failed in require at (eval 798) line 3, <DATA> line 522.\n
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] authentication error code: Undefined
subroutine &Netdot::LDAP::_connect called at
/usr/local/netdot/lib/Netdot/LDAP.pm line 108, <DATA> line 522.\n
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] ses_key_cookie
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Session cookie: UNSET
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Loading module
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
[Thu Aug 09 14:11:14 2012] [error] Using user factory
Apache2::SiteControl::UserFactory
Which raises another question I have about netdot_apache2_ldap.conf.? I suppose
the NetdotLDAPUserDN variable is the bind dn.? But where do I set the bind dn
password?
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