fyi, response from NetDynamics Product Manager:
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Basically, your message is very accurate. There are some minor corrections:
1. ND 5.0.2 will is scheduled to be available 1/25.
2. iPlanet Application Server 6.0 (there are other iPlanet products<g>) will
be available to all customers with current maintenance at no charge as a
developer release in Jan 2000 and as a production/deployment quality release
in March 2000. ND customers who install ND off the iAS6 CD will NOT need to
install any iAS components; customers who install ND 5.0.2 from, say, a
download will not need to install from the new CD (to the best of my
knowledge at this time) since the bits are the same. iAS6: the ND Part will
support the same platforms as we do today and iAS6: the J2EE Part will
support NT/Solaris on day one and then (as usual) add HP, IBM, and DEC UNIX
as platforms subsequently. iAS6 J2EE hardware requirements are not set yet
as the product is still not in final testing; the ND requirements are as
now.
3. The release schedule for the 6.0 follow-on version is probably CYQ4 2000
rather than Fall but we will almost certainly issue an SP first.
4. ND support for 3.x ends at the end of this months (except for Y2K issues,
which extend through 3/31), 4.x will end on 10/1/00, and 5.0.2 support will
be available until 12/31/02.
5. SynerJ is renamed Forte for Java Enterprise Edition, it's app server has
been shelved, and it will be available as a separate product ($) that knows
how to talk to iAS6. NetBeans has been renamed Forte for Java Community
Edition and Forte for Java (something in the middle) Edition.
Bill
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Benny Min wrote:
> My understanding from Sun (based on a meeting last week) matches what Curt
> reported RE: "purchasing" iPlanet.
>
> Further, my understanding is that:
>
> * ND v5.02 will be released on Jan 24, 2000 and will be the last version of
> ND, except for bug fixes (service packs); it will support "production"
> releases of EJB, JSP, Servlets, and "Java 2" (ND v5.01 currently supports
> only "development" releases of JSP and Servlets, though production releases
> of EJB and Java 2 (a.k.a. JDK v1.2))
>
> * iPlanet v6.0 will be beta released in Jan 2000 and made GA in Mar 2000;
> it will support ND v5.02 (as well as final versions of Kiva/Netscape); IT
> shops may elect to run both iPlanet and ND (or Kiva/Netscape) concurrently,
> but even if wanting to run "just ND", some parts of iPlanet will still be
> required; iPlanet will be available on NT and Solaris initially (no
> reference to HP-UX or AIX) and the IDE (studio) will require resources no
> greater than what is currently required (at least with respect to the 256Mb
> RAM required for ND v5) and may even require less (we'll see)
>
> * iPlanet v6.5 (or whatever next major release is numbered) is targetted
> for GA in Fall 2000
>
> * ND official support will end Dec 31 2002 (didn't hear reference to end
> date for Kiva/Netscape or Forte beyond statement that their support will
> end, too); of the 3 existing app servers, iPlanet will build most from (but
> not solely) from Kiva/Netscape
>
> * migration tools will be made available hopefully by March 2000, but Sun
> should have a better schedule planned by mid-December 1999; migration
> strategy is basically to either: 1) convert pre-ND v5.02 apps to ND v5.02
> "as is" or 2) convert pre-ND v5.02 apps to ND v5.02 but also utilizing (to
> whatever degree possible) EJBs; 1st approach is faster short-term and 2nd
> approach is better long-term as it will lessen efforts for eventual
> migration to iPlanet
>
> * licensing for iPlanet will be CPU-based rather than concurrent user
> based; conversion from existing licenses will be based on a basic formula
> of 100 users = 1 CPU (will round-up, too, e.g., 101 users = 2 CPU licenses,
> etc.)
>
> * IDE for iPlanet will build mostly from Forte's SynerJ tool, though I read
> about something with some other tools in a recent ComputerWorld (maybe from
> last week's issue)
>
> * Sun also recently bought Net Beans (Czech company) that (overly
> simplified) makes EJBs; this is part of Sun's product direction to rely on
> java standards
>
> -Benny
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> >To: "Teplitsky, Alexander" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >From: Curt Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [ND] FW: [ND] iPlanet 6.0 announcement
> >Cc: "'NetDynamics Developers forum'"
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> >
> >My understanding is that if you have ND support than you get iP as if it
> >were the next supported version of ND.
> >
> >- Curt, Team ND
> >
> >At 04:36 PM 12/6/99 -0800, Teplitsky, Alexander wrote:
> >>What about current ND 5.0 owners ? Do we have to pay $35,000 for iPlanet or
> >>it will be available as if it was the next version of ND (i.e supported ND
> >>users can simply download the next version or a patch from ND site)
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>
> >> > ----------
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 2:51 PM
> >> > To: NetDynamics 4 Forum
> >> > Subject: [ND] iPlanet 6.0 announcement
> >> >
> >> > I read the announcement for the new iPlanet 6.0 Application Server on the
> >> > Sun-Netscape Alliance site. Below is a link for anyone interested.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.iplanet.com/alliance/press_room/press_releases/120699_b.html
> >> >
> >> > I am mainly interested in and I quote: 'Anticipating J2EE certification
> >> > later this month, the iPlanet Application Server 6.0 software offers all
> >> > the benefits of the open Java technology standard combined with a
> heritage
> >> > of market-leading deployment capabilities and backwards compatibility for
> >> > Sun NetDynamics(tm) and Netscape Application Server applications.' What
> >> > does the backward compatibility mean?? Does it indicate a migration path
> >> > or a set of migration tools?
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ramu Kannan, Ph.D.
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> >> > URL: www.interlynx.com
> >> >
> >> >
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