On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 04:02:19PM +0000, Andre Cruz wrote:
> Hello. The newnat patch in cvs is broken again with this new 
> kernel.
>
> sigh.. When will this be included in the stock kernel to put an 
> end to the patching problems?

I'm sorry but this project is a community effort by volunteers.  If you 
want to have any guarantees, try getting commercial support for
iptables/netfilter.  Then you will have a contract indicating that you have
a right on 'every possible patch needs to work with every released kernel
version' - or something like that.

We are trying very hard to make this project work.  And I think your
reaction is unrespectful to every developer in that team. 

Everybody can complain about bad things, but I don't like the attitude
of people expecting commercial-grade support from volunteers.  

Believe me or not, we have other criteria than 'removing the burden of 
patching from the users who want to use development code'.

It's important that the code is of good quality.  It's important that
there are no bugs in it, and that all interfaces are designed in the way
we want to have them.  It needs to be tested on a variety of machines
(SMP, big endian, ...).  Once all those criteria are fulfilled, we consider
submitting something to the stock kernel.

patch-o-matic is an additional effort from our side.  And it's not about
providing the possibility of patching something - this could be achieved with
regular patches as well.  You just need to manually go in and look for the
rejected hunks, etc.  But we want to be friendly, and have more people testing
our development code, thus providing them an easy-to-use frontend.

And:  The documentation clearly states that only patches in 'submitted',
'pending' and 'base' are supposed to apply without any clashes.


Summary:

Thanks for your bug report, it is acknowledged.  But complaining and sighing
is not going to help you or us in any way.  


> Thanks.

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