From: Jan Engelhardt <>
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:37:57 +0100 (CET)

> On Monday 2018-02-19 16:32, David Miller wrote:
>>From: Harald Welte <>
>>Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:23:21 +0100
>>> Also, as long as legacy ip_tables/x_tables is still in the kernel, you
>>> can still run your old userspace against that old implementation in the
>>> kernel.
>>But without offloading, and the various other benefits which I have
>>tried to clearly explain to both you and Florian.
> Which is actually the business model to get people *off* the old ABI in 
> reasonable time.

Hosting companies can't change what customers run in their containers.

But if they are told that a kernel upgrade will get them offloading
and increase their performance termendously, then that gives them real

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