When the shared clip board was available:
In a collaborative session usually with about 5 people, using NM to share an
application, usually MS Excel or MS Word
Work with the information in various ways,
* adding information - anybody could open a file on their PC copy the
information and we could paste it into the application open on the meeting
PC
* changing information - we would make changes directly to the file open on
the meeting PC
* we could make pivot tables or charts on the meeting PC
* we would have open discussion on the revised information
Then when we had come to consensus on the final format we could copy and
paste all or parts of the information back to the applications on anyone
individuals PC or all participants PCs.
NetMeeting with the shared clipboard was a very powerful collaborative tool.
NM3 does not have the shared clip board and looses a lot of utility for
collaborative work as a result.
Dennis Wilson
Adviser, Business Tools
Wireless Mobility, US Region
Nortel Networks
(972) 684-8068
ESN 444
-----Original Message-----
From: Cannell, Larry (L.A.) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 9:59 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [NetMeeting] Net 3.0 Video switching
That's interesting because I never noticed that the shared clipboard
was
removed. I had to look in the resource kit to verify it because I
didn't
believe you at first.
I guess I've never found a use for the shared clipboard. In fact, I
recall a
conversation with some other collaborative apps developers and none
of them
realized it was in there. We tried to use it but found it took too
much
coordination.
How are you using it?
--
Larry Cannell
Ford Systems Integration Center
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 10:43 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [NetMeeting] Net 3.0 Video switching
My biggest issue is the removal of the shared Clip board. We use
NetMeeting
as a highly effective tool for collaborative working, and don't use
the
video feature at all. By removing the shared clip board Micorsoft
has
decreased the utility of NM3 to our organization by as much as one
third.
I have seldom seen a upgraded version of a product take such a large
step
backwards in terms of user friendliness and useful features.
Dennis Wilson
Adviser, Business Tools
Wireless Mobility, US Region
Nortel Networks
(972) 684-8068
ESN 444
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelley, Kevin F. (LO_ITM) [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 7:28 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [NetMeeting] Net 3.0 Video switching
I agree fully Falkov, but M4 pushes that NM3 is way more
than just
collaborating. I have read many newsgroups, including the
M$, the
overall
biggest gripe and confusion, is why did they take the video
switching away.
M$ will bring it back, too many complaints.
-----Original Message-----
From: Danny Falkov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 5:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NetMeeting] Net 3.0 Video switching
Kelley,
the main point of having a MP meeting is the ability to
collaborate.
This does not necessarily involve a/v. For most companies,
sharing apps and working on documents is the main value.
Danny
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kelley,
Kevin F. (LO_ITM)
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 11:50 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [NetMeeting] Net 3.0 Video switching
Personally I think it was pretty stupid of m$. What's the
use of
running a
meeting or hosting a meeting if you can only see the first
person
who enters
the meeting. I really like the new interface, pip, ease of
add/remove ILS
servers but the video issue is foolish. Its now a point to
point, 1
to 1
only.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 10:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [NetMeeting] Net 3.0 Video switching
> This is my first post and I hope its not wasting your
time. I am
> teaching a
> class next week to our faculty and am kind of disappointed
with
the new or
> lack of feature of switching video. It looks like I can
only see
> one person
> in a meeting (which is normal) but I can't switch to the
video of
another
> person who is in our meeting. If 5 people are in a
meeting, all
> using 3.01,
> how can they see each other 1 at a time.
>
That feature was removed from V3 -- the only way I can think
of to
get it
back is to use 2.11 or some sort of MCU.
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