Lada,

there won't be any decision as long as there is not a concrete
actionable proposal to be discussed. Such a proposal does not have to
be 'complete rewrite' but it needs to be a detailed list of what would
have to change so that it is possible to assess such a proposal.

/js

On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 01:06:54PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> 
> > On 26 Jul 2015, at 12:55, Juergen Schoenwaelder 
> > <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> > 
> > Any are concrete actionable proposals?
> 
> Start rewriting 6020bis, but only if we decide to go that way - it is a 
> difficult decision. I will be slightly in favor of doing so.
> 
> Lada
> 
> > 
> > /js
> > 
> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:46:22PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> >> 
> >>> On 26 Jul 2015, at 02:26, Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> The WG should decide what it means for YANG to not
> >>> be NETCONF-specific.  Why does YANG define extensions
> >>> to NETCONF operations (like insert)? IMO the normative text
> >>> about NETCONF should not be in the YANG RFC.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> This is essentially what I proposed in Berlin (IETF 87):
> >> 
> >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/minutes/minutes-87-netmod
> >> 
> >> (first item in Open mike section).
> >> 
> >> Another thing that I realized only recently is that some properties that 
> >> are inherent to the conceptual data tree are defined in “XML Mapping” 
> >> sections.
> >> 
> >> I think most YANG concepts and statements can be defined in terms of data 
> >> tree properties. Separate documents would then define different encodings, 
> >> and “profiles” for management protocols.
> >> 
> >> It would need massive changes in 6020bis text though.
> >> 
> >> Lada
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> Andy
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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