Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email protected]> writes: > Lada, > > there won't be any decision as long as there is not a concrete > actionable proposal to be discussed. Such a proposal does not have to > be 'complete rewrite' but it needs to be a detailed list of what would > have to change so that it is possible to assess such a proposal.
This is still quite some work, so I'd first like to see an elementary consensus that it is a good thing to do now. Clearly it would mean further delay for 6020bis and all other documents that depend on it. And frankly - I need to show my employer that at least some of my IETF work ever gets finished. Lada > > /js > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 01:06:54PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >> > On 26 Jul 2015, at 12:55, Juergen Schoenwaelder >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Any are concrete actionable proposals? >> >> Start rewriting 6020bis, but only if we decide to go that way - it is a >> difficult decision. I will be slightly in favor of doing so. >> >> Lada >> >> > >> > /js >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:46:22PM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: >> >> >> >>> On 26 Jul 2015, at 02:26, Andy Bierman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> The WG should decide what it means for YANG to not >> >>> be NETCONF-specific. Why does YANG define extensions >> >>> to NETCONF operations (like insert)? IMO the normative text >> >>> about NETCONF should not be in the YANG RFC. >> >>> >> >> >> >> This is essentially what I proposed in Berlin (IETF 87): >> >> >> >> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/87/minutes/minutes-87-netmod >> >> >> >> (first item in Open mike section). >> >> >> >> Another thing that I realized only recently is that some properties that >> >> are inherent to the conceptual data tree are defined in “XML Mapping” >> >> sections. >> >> >> >> I think most YANG concepts and statements can be defined in terms of data >> >> tree properties. Separate documents would then define different >> >> encodings, and “profiles” for management protocols. >> >> >> >> It would need massive changes in 6020bis text though. >> >> >> >> Lada >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Andy >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> netmod mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs >> >> PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> netmod mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod >> > >> > -- >> > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH >> > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany >> > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> >> >> -- >> Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs >> PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C >> >> >> >> > > -- > Juergen Schoenwaelder Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH > Phone: +49 421 200 3587 Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany > Fax: +49 421 200 3103 <http://www.jacobs-university.de/> -- Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: E74E8C0C _______________________________________________ netmod mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
