Hi,

You are incorrect.

Within the PAYLOAD (as this section describes), there is no when-stmt
for data nodes within the datastore.  Look at the YANG for edit-config.
There are no when-stmts for "interface" in "edit-config".

So explain which constraint in the payload is being violated?


Andy


On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 1:00 AM, Balazs Lengyel <[email protected]
> wrote:

> See below, Balazs
>
> On 2015-10-14 23:06, Andy Bierman wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Martin Bjorklund < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Andy Bierman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Martin Bjorklund <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Andy Bierman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Martin Bjorklund <[email protected]>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Balazs Lengyel < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>> > > > > > Hello Martin,
>> > > > > > I agree that A1 is what follows the spirit of YANG, but then
>> IMHO you
>> > > > > > should change/correct 8.2.1 in YANG because that implies A2 and
>> > > error.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Ok, I agree.  I suggest we remove from 8.2.1:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >    o  If data for a node tagged with "when" is present, and the
>> "when"
>> > > > >       condition evaluates to "false", the server MUST reply with
>> an
>> > > > >       "unknown-element" error-tag in the rpc-error.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > and add to 8.2.2:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >   o  Modification requests for nodes tagged with "when", and the
>> "when"
>> > > > >      condition evaluates to "false".  In this case the server MUST
>> > > reply
>> > > > >      with an "unknown-element" error-tag in the rpc-error.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > This seems like a BIG protocol change to <edit-config> behavior.
>> > > > IMO this not an error at all.  In our server the false-when data is
>> just
>> > > > pruned, and no error is ever sent for a pruned when=false data node.
>> > >
>> > > So you are not following the current RFC 6020 spec?
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yes we are following it.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>> > The schema for the edit-config RPC operation contains
>> > an 'anyxml' for <config> node.  It does not contain any
>> > when-stmts for the data nodes that get passed in the <config> node.
>> > The correct behavior is to just enforce the error on the when-stmts
>> > that appear in the rpc-stmt.
>>
>> I don't understand what you are trying to say.
>>
>
>
> I know about the text that says a false-when in an RPC is an error.
> Show me the when-stmts  "interface" in the "edit-config" rpc-stmt.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Here's an example:
>>
>>   augment /if:interfaces/if:interface {
>>     when "if:type = 'ianaift:ethernetCsmacd'";
>>
>>     container ethernet {
>>       leaf duplex {
>>         type enumeration {
>>           enum "half";
>>           enum "full";
>>         }
>>       }
>>     }
>>   }
>>
>> Suppose the db is empty.
>>
>> What if the edit-confif contains
>>
>>   <interfaces>
>>     <interface>
>>       <name>eth0</name>
>>       <eth:duplex>full</eth:duplex>
>>       <type>ianaift:ethernetCsmacd</type>
>>     </interface>
>>   </interfaces>
>>
>> will that work or not?  I.e., will the eth0 interface be created with
>> duplex full?
>>
>
> Yes -- because these are data nodes and the rules for when-stmt
> on data nodes are different than for rpc-stmt.  Then the when-stmt
> is a test on whether the node should exist in the candidate or running
> datastore.
>
> Our server applies all the edits first, when checks all the when-stmts
> that might have changed value.  Nodes that have already existed in the
> datastore may get pruned, not just the new nodes.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> /martin
>>
>>
>>
>
> Andy
>
>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > I don't think this is a BIG protocol change, since the spec already
>> > > says that requests for nodes w/ false when expressions MUST send
>> > > error.  The change is to say that this behavior is true regardless of
>> > > evaluation order.
>> > >
>> > > > It may be a client programming error for the client to provide
>> > > > false when nodes or not.  What if the client is reusing some
>> > > > code that sends 5 parameters, it it's OK if 1 of them gets
>> > > > pruned sometimes because of a false when (e.g, product
>> > > > feature-specific knob and that feature is not installed)
>> > >
>> > > Well, it might be simpler to send if-featured nodes that the specific
>> > > server doesn't support - this is also an error in 6020.
>> > >
>> > > > BTW, this is a really good example of what not to do, if one
>> > > > wants to make the YANG specification protocol independent.
>> > >
>> > > That statement is true for the entire section 8.2, it is not
>> > > specifically true for this change.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > /martin
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > Andy
>>
>
> And this contradicts the current rfc6020bis-07#section-8.2.1 which states
> that already during parsing you must check
>
> If data for a node tagged with "when" is present, and the "when"
>       condition evaluates to "false", the server MUST reply with an
>       "unknown-element" error-tag in the rpc-error.
>
>
> So already during parsing <eth:duplex>full</eth:duplex> you MUST send back an 
> error;
> before processing <type>ianaift:ethernetCsmacd</type>.
> (I also assume this is independent from the document order of the edit-config 
> request.)
> So this MUST be corrected in the draft!
> regards Balazs
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Balazs Lengyel                       Ericsson Hungary Ltd.
> Senior Specialist
> ECN: 831 7320
> Mobile: +36-70-330-7909              email: [email protected]
>
>
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