On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:52 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
[email protected]> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 11:19:00AM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> > Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 07:19:14PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Juergen Schoenwaelder <
> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 09:19:45AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Conformance to YANG for the extension: NONE This includes syntax
> and
> > > > > > semantics.  It makes no sense at all (Lada is right) to say the
> > > > > > extension semantics apply.  They only apply if the tool supports
> the
> > > > > > extension.  Conformance to the extension is a different matter.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would hope that a server supporting NACM implements the
> behaviour of
> > > > > nacm:default-deny-write when nodes are tagged with this extension.
> > > > > Sure, a YANG parser is allowed to skip over nacm:default-deny-write
> > > > > but if nacm:default-deny-write is used for a certain node, I think
> we
> > > > > want the server to implement the semantics implied by
> > > > > nacm:default-deny-write regardless which tool the developer used.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I do not agree.
> > > > The semantics for this YANG extension only apply to NACM.
> > > > Of course an implementation of NACM cannot ignore this extension.
> > > >
> > > > The extensions says what to do in NACM if the tag is found.
> > > > (As it should).  It does not define any behavior outside of NACM.
> > > > No other tool except a NETCONF server implementation
> > > > of NACM has any conformance requirement to implement this extension.
> > >
> > > I am confused, perhaps we talk past each other. If a server implements
> > > NACM and some data model X contains
> > >
> > >     leaf foo {
> > >          type string;
> > >          nacm:default-deny-write;
> > >     }
> > >
> > > does this not mean that the nacm:default-deny-write semantics must be
> > > implemented for the foo leaf regardless whether the developer's tool
> > > is able to parse nacm:default-deny-write or skips over it?
> >
> > Sure.  Andy wrote:
> >
> >    Of course an implementation of NACM cannot ignore this extension.
> >
>
> Good, so we actually agree. How do we get the wording to say what we
> agree on?
>


Here is my attempt...


OLD:



   If a YANG parser does not support a particular extension, which
   appears in a YANG module as an unknown-statement (see Section 14),
   the entire unknown-statement MAY be ignored by the parser.  Note that
   even in this case the semantics associated with the extension still
   apply (as if they were part of a description statement).




NEW:

   If a YANG parser does not support a particular extension, which
   appears in a YANG module as an unknown-statement (see Section 14),
   the entire unknown-statement MAY be ignored by the parser. Note that
   this only applies to a generic YANG parser. A tool which is required
   to implement the particular extension MUST NOT ignore such an
   unknown-statement.






>
> /js
>
>

Andy



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