Andy, This may be a bit OBE by the conversation on the list, but see below...
On 7/12/2016 12:17 PM, Andy Bierman wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 8:23 AM, Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net > <mailto:lber...@labn.net>> wrote: > > Acee, > > I personally was assuming we'd follow 3, but I'd like to > understand > the implication of 2 as I'm not sure I really understand what you're > thinking here. Can you elaborate what you're thinking here? > > Thanks, > > Lou > ..... > > 3. #2 plus collapse the config (read-write) and system-state > > (read-only) into common containers. No more branching of > > <model-name>-config and <model-name>-state at the top level of > the model. > >..... > > > > I would really like to understand what problem (3) is supposed to solve. > The config/state split discussed in the context of opstate, and the openconfig draft in particular, reflects two different types of separations: 1) configuration vs operational information (e.g., intf parameter vs counters) 2) intended vs applied configuration My earlier comment about assuming that we're getting rid of -config and -state (as part f the decision to move to revised datastores) was really focused on the second. > Most of the foo-state variables are for monitoring. I really wasn't commenting on conventions WRT configuration data and operational parameters relationship/organization -- although I think having a general convention for these is "a good idea". > This information is useful even if the server uses proprietary > configuration mechanisms. > (e.g., the way the SNMP world has worked for 30 years) > > If you forbid separate monitoring subtrees and force the data to be > co-located > with configuration, that means the standard monitoring will not be > supported > unless the standard configuration is also supported. Why is that > progress? > > Again, I was focusing on the intended vs applied aspects here. I can see reasons to keep a top level spit for config vs operational state, but alos don't have a strong personal bias on this. Lou > Andy > > > _______________________________________________ netmod mailing list netmod@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod