Hi Benoit,

Thanks for the review. Some of these points will probably require further discussion.

Please see inline ...


On 11/07/2017 14:55, Benoit Claise wrote:
Dear all,

Good job on this document.

Some comments below.

-

OLD:
    o  learned configuration: Configuration that has been learned via
       protocol interactions with other systems that is not conventional
       or dynamic configuration.

NEW (is this what wou want to say?):
    o  learned configuration: Configuration that has been learned via dynamic 
configuration
       or protocol interactions with other systems that is not conventional
The aim here is to indicate that "learned configuration" explicitly excluded configuration data that comes via the conventional or dynamic datastores.

So, configuration from I2RS would be dynamic configuration and not learned configuration.


Thinking some more about this definition. Let's come back to it.

-
o dynamic datastore: A datastore holding data obtained dynamically
       during the operation of a device through interaction with other
       systems, rather than through one of the conventional configuration
       datastores.


Should the dynamic datastore should say:
    o  dynamic datastore: A datastore holding configuration data obtained 
dynamically ...
We think that dynamic datastores may also contain data for nodes that are not configuration. Every schema node that is "config true" is configuration and hence may be programmed via the conventional datastores. The I2RS requirements wants to be able to write to config false nodes, my assumption is that this is because they don't want all of their I2RS specific models (e.g. for modifying RIB/FIB entries) to also have to be configurable via conventional datastores.

So, this is the reason that it refers to "data" rather than "configuration".



Background:
Reading this definition:
   o  system state: The additional data on a system that is not
       configuration, such as read-only status information and collected
       statistics.  System state is transient and modified by
       interactions with internal components or other systems.  System
       state is modeled in YANG using "config false" nodes.

I guessed that the system states don't include the content from the dynamic 
datastore.
It's not obvious with the current definitions.
If the dynamic datastore contains data for config false schema nodes then this would modify the system state in the operational state datastore.


- This figure and section 4.7 text.

      +-------------+                 +-----------+
      | <candidate> |                 | <startup> |
      |  (ct, rw)   |<---+       +--->| (ct, rw)  |
      +-------------+    |       |    +-----------+
             |           |       |           |
             |         +-----------+         |
             +-------->| <running> |<--------+
                       | (ct, rw)  |
                       +-----------+
                             |
                             |        // configuration transformations,
                             |        // e.g., removal of "inactive"
                             |        // nodes, expansion of templates
                             v
                       +------------+
                       | <intended> | // subject to validation
                       | (ct, ro)   |
                       +------------+
                             |        // changes applied, subject to
                             |        // local factors, e.g., missing
                             |        // resources, delays
                             |
                             |   +-------- learned configuration
        dynamic              |   +-------- system configuration
        datastores -----+    |   +-------- default configuration
                        |    |   |
                        v    v   v
                     +---------------+
                     | <operational> | <-- system state
                     | (ct + cf, ro) |
                     +---------------+


  Section 4.7
    <operational> contains system state and all configuration actually
    used by the system.  This includes all applied configuration from
    <intended>, system-provided configuration, and default values defined
    by any supported data models.  In addition, <operational> also
    contains applied data from dynamic datastores.

What about "learned configuration"
This is an omission and should be added.



- Section 3.
The important question is whether the section 2 "datastore" and "configuration datastore" definitions are aligned with previous definitions or not.
I guess not. If this is the case, it should be clearly mentioned.
OK.

The definition of "datastore" aligns with NETCONF (RFC 6241) updated by YANG 1.1 (RFC 7050).

The definition of "configuration datastore" is slightly different, but I believe that it is meant to be semantically equivalent.


- Section 4.5
No need to repeat what's in the terminology section.
Do you mean not to mention the conventional datastores at all here? Currently the text does expand somewhat on the definition in the terminology section.


- Section 4.7

OLD:
    In the original NETCONF model the operational
    state only had "config false" nodes.

OLD:
    In the original NETCONF model (RFC6241 or section 3.1) the operational
    state only had "config false" nodes.
OK.


- Security Considerations.
You might want to stress that, even if this document contains YANG modules, those modules have no read or read/write leaves: only identities and a metadata. Hence "YANG module security guidelines" don't apply.
Now, there surely exist some security considerations anyway.
Yes.


- Is appendix A normative?
Should it move to the document core?
I'm not sure on this one.


Regards, Benoit
Thanks,
Rob

















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