Juergen,

I was not suggesting to have a feature for all identities but I would assume 
that there are several identities that logically belong to each other so these 
could be grouped.  If this would still lead to a lot of features I do not see 
how a deviation can help out here to reduce the number of identities as you do 
not have a schema node for identities so to me the only way to reduce the 
amount of interface types one supports is to define a YANG module importing 
ietf-interfaces for the base interface-type identity and defining the set of 
identities required but then this not really in-line with what is coming from 
the standardization bodies (you could re-use the same names as used in 
iana-if-type but this is not very nice).

Regards, Bart

-----Original Message-----
From: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 1:37 PM
To: Bogaert, Bart (Nokia - BE/Antwerp) <[email protected]>; Alex Campbell 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [netmod] An abundant amount of IANA if types...

On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 10:51:48AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > If we would have a mechanism to deviate an identityref to a subset 
> > of identity values supported by an implementation, we would have 
> > solved a more generic problem. Yes, the IANA list could be 'nicer' 
> > but it will never be 'nice'.
> 
> Three mechanisms can be used for this:
> 
> - splitting the identities into separate modules

Whatever module organization you come up with, it won't work for all 
implementations. 

> - using features

Making every identity a feature will turn the feature system upside down. This 
is similar to making every leaf a feature.

> - using deviations (even though vendors frown on them)

If my implementation only supports A and B and C, then a deviation may state 
exactly that and the problem is solved. Hoping that my specific combination of 
A and B and C matches a set of modules or some set of features is in my view an 
illusion.

Vendors not shipping proper deviations are essentially telling their customers 
that they have not yet understood model driven management.
We need to change the mindset here instead of polluting our data models with 
hundreds or thousands of fine grained 'features'.

/js

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