Hi:
发件人: netmod [mailto:[email protected]] 代表 Jan Lindblad
发送时间: 2018年12月18日 21:37
收件人: Balázs Lengyel
抄送: [email protected]; [email protected]
主题: Re: [netmod] [Netconf] magic leaf 'type' in IETF interfaces

Hi,
While I agree with Martin, in our systems we have a number of places, where the 
system does create configuration in running, due to

  *   different levels of automation and autonomous algorithms kick-in
  *   the created config needs to be possible to be further modified by the 
operator

  *   the created config needs to be referenced from operator created config
[Qin]: We have a new draft that has just been posted to discuss some of these 
issues which allow system creation configuration in running
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wu-netconf-nmda-compatibility-00


  *   the created config is not always ephemeral, it might need to be part of 
backup/restore
This is only a sampling from "the list of excuses". I have heard many more. The 
road to hell is paved with good intentions, however. If we want to build 
automation based on sound theory, clearly separating the orders from managers 
from a system's own operational view is key, IMO. Reliability, security, 
accountability are growing in importance, and they all play in this direction.

We may not need to standardize rules to outlaw the above; the market will take 
care of that. What we need to ensure is that it is possible to be standards 
compliant without having to implement design excuses like these.
      [Qin]: I would support standardizing some of guidance rules or design 
rules on how to deal with these cases.

Best Regards,
/jan

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