Hi Acee,

Thanks for the review, and apologies for the delayed reply.

Regarding your stats question, there was some effort to handle this as part of 
defining the Ethernet interface YANG (IEEE 802.3.2-2019) 
(https://github.com/YangModels/yang/tree/master/standard/ieee/published/802.3) 
that I was involved in the earlier parts of.  Please see the attached XLS that 
was my earlier effort to rationalize the different ethernet interfaces counters 
between RFC 7223, Ethernet YANG, Etherlike MIB, RMON MIBs, and the counters 
exposed in the 802.3 clause 30 management API.

For physical Ethernet interfaces (and anything that looks very similar to a 
physical Ethernet interface) then I think that we should be well covered by the 
combination of what is in ietf-interfaces, and IEEE 802.3.2.

There are also some counters that apply to all Ethernet-like interfaces (really 
anything using Ethernet framing, but not an Ethernet physical layer).  The only 
counter currently defined in this category is in-drop-unknown-dest-mac-pkts in 
ietf-interfaces-ethernet-like.  Arguably we could also add a drop counter for 
frames that could not be demuxed to a sub-interface because it didn't match any 
of the sub-interface match expressions.

There was one set of counters that 802.3.2 didn't want to include in their YANG 
module which related to the histogram frame statistics.  E.g. counters like the 
following (taken from IOS XR):

    Input pkts 65-127 bytes     = 0
    Input pkts 128-255 bytes    = 0
    Input pkts 256-511 bytes    = 0
    Input pkts 512-1023 bytes   = 0
    Input pkts 1024-1518 bytes  = 0
    Input pkts 1519-Max bytes   = 0

    Output pkts 65-127 bytes    = 0
    Output pkts 128-255 bytes   = 0
    Output pkts 256-511 bytes   = 0
    Output pkts 512-1023 bytes  = 0
    Output pkts 1024-1518 bytes = 0
    Output pkts 1519-Max bytes  = 0

The 802.3 YANG WG had two issues with including counters like these:
(1) They didn't really want to define histogram counter values for MTUs that 
are above the officially sanctioned MTU of 1514/1518 in the Ethernet 
specification, even though a lot of hardware supports up to 9K+.
(2) The bucket ranges, at least once you get past the "512-1023" bucket, seem 
to somewhat vary by ASIC vendor.
(3) IEEE 802.3 has a well defined internal management API (802.3 clause 30), 
and these histogram counters are not currently defined as part of that internal 
management API.  Extending the internal 802.3 management API seems tricky due 
to point (1) and (2) above.

There was a suggestion in the 802.3 discussions that these counters could be 
defined in an IETF YANG module (skirting the IEEE concerns about maximum MTUs). 
 The proposal was to allow the operational data to return a list of bucket 
entries, where each entry defines the inclusive range of the bucket, and a 
count of the pkts that matched the bucket range (in either the ingress or 
egress direction).  This list would sit alongside a RECOMMENDATION of what 
bucket sizes to use, basically doubling each time up to the MTU, with some 
consideration around the 1514/1518/1522 boundary, but allowing freedom for a 
device to accurately return the histogram ranges actually supported by the 
hardware.

However, I'm not sure it is worth delaying these drafts to add these counters 
in now, particularly because there are dependencies on them.  Possibly best 
done as future work?  Do you, or anyone else in the WG have an opinion on this?

Thanks,
Rob



-----Original Message-----
From: netmod <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Acee Lindem (acee)
Sent: 10 July 2019 14:09
To: Kent Watsen <[email protected]>; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-intf-ext-yang-07

I have reviewed the subject document and support publication. I have the 
following comment:

  Perhaps ietf-interface-ethernet-like module 
ethlike:ethernet-like/ethlike:statistics could include a subset of the counters 
from RFC 3635. I say a subset since some of these counters are a bit archaic 
given the state of the technology and judgement should be applied on which to 
include.

  Thanks,
Acee 

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