On Thu, Apr 9, 2020 at 12:39 AM Juergen Schoenwaelder <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 08, 2020 at 09:19:00AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
>
> > draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-26 has been in MISREF state for 754 days
> and
> > counting.
> > Talk about ill-advised normative references...
>
> This document uses groupings from I-Ds it is waiting for, I would not
> call such a normative reference ill-advised. I hope Kent knows about
> this usage of his I-Ds. At the time of the syslog I-D approval, we had
> draft-ietf-netconf-tls-client-server-05, we are not at
> draft-ietf-netconf-tls-client-server-18 (and I can't tell whether
> anything has changed affecting draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-26).
>
>
The "signing/cert-signers/cert-signer/cert container is part of an
if-feature subtree so it is clearly optional.
IMO it is ill-advised to get held up for 2+ years for an optional feature.
uses ks:private-key-grouping;
uses ks:certificate-grouping;
These groupings are defunct, which causes the ietf-syslog module to have
fatal errors.
The ietf-syslog draft will eventually get sent back to the WG for a rewrite.
We need to learn how to use augments to prevent MISREF logjams and get
modules
done in a reasonable timeframe. The client-server drafts just keep growing
in scope.
Any attempts to avoid boiling the ocean appear to be unsuccessful.
/js
>
>
Andy
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