hi Luca, On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, Luca Dionisi wrote:
> It is the first time I ever read of someone searching for the right moment > to get involved in netsukuku. Shouldn't you (how many you are?) have > talked earlier? Just to let me know... well the fact is that NTK is not the only and most important project.. for instance i'm giving (and not alone) way more attention to projects like dyne:bolic, which also represents a way to democratize technology by providing users with an OS that is not at all network based (not even for updates) and that keeps your data encrypted and other things.. or FreeJ for online broadcasting of video and such. in fact i see all those projects as complementary, for instance NTK would be the ideal network daemon to run by default on a OS like dyne:bolic, then the deployement of it would be really easy and would match a community that is already sensible to this kind of feature and appreciates it much. and anyway the vast majority of free software developed out there have always an handful of people (in the best case) to push them forward (and it's a hard and passionate mission, we know), they are never this big dream of a happy community working and living together. i've recently heard Ben Mako Hill mentioning this to a conference of free culture enthusiasts and, risking to be unpopular, he did say the truth. of course we have to make a difference between packaging software into a distribution and actually writing the software, but ok i'm sure we are clear about it here. so the point i'm making is: we aren't really many, but we are all busy and passionate about complementary projects that can come together (and they already do time to time) into good tools and products that actually really benefit society, and we have seen this in the past when we reached to stage our creations into something coherent and well tested, they are all over out there. so to come back to your question for me the right moment is when i can actually gather enough attention and a sparring partner to test things, start fingering around and then get involved in a trip that lasts at least 2 or 3 months into a software. that's what i mean for the right time. nothing you find behind the corner, if you know what i mean. but ok, for instance recently i've been hacking on these WDTV boxes running the WDLXTV firmware http://wdlxtv.com - after some fixing on the optware port and while i'm coding some stuff for work i'm also looking in possibilities of running NTK into an app.bin, fix some decent python interpreter in there, provide testing on MIPS platform. that's just to mention how different people busy on different projects can come together. then definitely this won't help now making you feel less alone on NTK, if that's how you feel anyway, but ok this project is just in the middle of a transition moment and you seem to be the person that follows it the most - i'd say be happy for it :) and expect to carry a big cross for a while - i can tell you about that :) (Eloi, Eloi, Lama Sabachthani!) OTOH i remain convinced that at this stage of NTK an investement is useful if not even necessary to form a solid team and get out of the stage of lonely developers pushing and burning themselves out. i know for sure that some of the people previously involved would be motivated if we'd structure a plan with some money involved. the funny thing is that in Italy the "Angel Capital" claiming to fund NTK did not move it of a centimeter, just bragged about it on newspapers. so now maybe the project should really scale up for real (and it was mature for that already) and try to run a funding thing to finally have something under our feets to build upon. ciao
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