hi Franc, On Sun, 06 May 2012, Franc Cat wrote:
> Now, from a pledge prospective: how can I be sure about the project > not disappearing again even if there's some money poured in? good point. so far I think that the way it has kept up all this time makes it valid, plus at dyne.org we do have a reputation for getting to results rather than advertising them > You have to convince those people that the project is not dead, that > the project is not in a development mess that will take 5 more years > to untangle. yes, we have to explain what happened all these years > Netsukuku has been marked as vaporware by many of my tech-savvy > friends. are your friends tech-savvy, or just web 2.0 monkeys? ;^) do they read C, python or Vala? have they read the code? vaporware is something with no code behind, NTK has gone through at least 3 rewrites now in 10 years, with lots of code, experience and experiments behind. what I call vaporware is "tutto fumo e niente arrosto" meaning lots of smoke in the eyes, usually made by people that have the merchandising ready before the actual product, or that make up imaginary products for getting money that they never use to realize them, as you say. this is not our case here. we do have code written by various *independent* people, which is made for *underground networking*, it has been used widely in various modifications. and in fact a few people using NTK have interest in "marketing" it.... this seems logical to me. in a way, the fact that NTK has never been so popular is an advantage point for undernets made with the most popular networks... we'll see if NTK is better than GNUNet (which I see as the best competitor btw), meanwhile security through obscurity has worked better on the short term. said that, the code speaks for itself. what NTK has been so far is a project with not much documentation around, but lots of code and a complete series of RFC documents for a grassroot peer2peer networking algorithm that was started to be written from scratch about 10 years ago and has seen a dozen of talented developers discussing it. And I can assure they weren't just talking about the sex of the angels when they did. > We have to find a way to convince them that the project still has a > future, or even a crowd founding won't be successful. you are right. I'm convinced NTK has a future, however as we did so far, the best we can do is take care that all what has been done so far gets preserved and the documentation stays intact. ciao
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