Jaromil <[email protected]> writes:

> On Fri, 04 May 2012, Luca Dionisi wrote:
>>    Soooo, what do you think?
>
*** I second Jaromil's opinion, especially the cooperation part. Last
Summer in Berlin, I convinced some free software developers to think
about creating a European Cooperative Society to support free software
development. We're still at Phase Zero of the project, aka. define it
thoroughly, and we're planning to have that done in time for the next
Unlike-Us conference next March in Am*dam. 

The ECS would bind to the GNU project, so that contributors (both
developers and users, as funding resources) would ensure that the
results will go in the direction of more freedom, and not get caught in
some commercial net.

Please have a look at the working group on N-1 (it's been a bit silent,
as life took over ;o)

  https://n-1.cc/g/cirs

> concrete suggestions:
>
> 1- drop the funding platforms that you have mentioned, they take too
>    much percentage and work only with paypal, you get 30-40% scraped,
>    like the scam that is run on migrants by wezternunion or moneygramz
>
*** That's true, and an issue that Lorea Faeries have been addressing
with the founders of Goteo. The idea is to evolve that kind of service
to use alternate banks (i.e., ethical and cooperative) but that's still
a TODO item. Indeed, having that kind of service outside of the
mainstream commercial nightmare would certainly help.

On the other hand, kickstarter and friends provide a real visibility and
potential gains, so YMMV. As far as Lorea is concerned, we postponed
crowd-funding that way.

Also, I suggest that you might cooperate with other projects with
similar intentions. I'm thinking about Briar, as I think is the closest
one to NTK, and Michael Rogers is an angel.

That brings me to the GNU/social project (which is *unrelated* to "GNU
Social") which aims to facilitate coordination of free software social
networking projects to encourage freedom, privacy, public space, and
decentralization. It's slowly bootstrapping, and I'd love to have a P2P
section that mentions NTK.

Cheers,

==
hk
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