Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:08:36 +0400
From: "Mark in Clinton TWP. MI. USA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NT 1.08.1
Hello John and all,
Is there a site or location where the 1.08.1 version could be found?
That's for both the xt and 386 versions.
I am pretty certain that there was a version right after the 1.08 making
the 1.08.1 the last version in the 108 line of fixes.
However I haven't ever found those versions after having deleated them
from my system a very long time ago.
Thanks,
Mark
On 2001-07-20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
-Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 05:23:32 -0700
-Sam:
-Since the release of Nettamer version 1.07 beta, I have been
-following the lack of progress on bug fixes to the application(s).
-Probably the most stable code Uncle Dave ever posted was version 1.
-08.
-Walter Scott, Bob Buckland and many others have spent countless
-hours documenting the bugs in various versions of Nettamer. There
-was even a project where everybody sent their bugs to a single
-person (Tom B... sorry I forgot your name - Tom builds add-ons for
-Nettamer) who compiled a listing.
-Uncle Dave had promised to handle those bugs in a timely manner and
-post updates to Nettamer. For what ever personal, physical, lack of
-interest, or who knows why the reason; that project for bug fixing
-fell on its ass. Just as every other attempt to get Uncle Dave to
-focus on fixing what he has BEFORE adding new features, has fallen
-on it collective asses.
-Now new features are the only way to increase the registered users
-base for Nettamer.
-Number one on the list of needed new features would be address the
-"non-dial-up" direct connection like: DSL, cable, wireless LAN -
-anything that doesn't use Uncle Dave's proprietary PPP coding to
-connect to their ISP.
-So if you, Sam, want to start on a project of collecting the various
-"one-off" versions of Nettamer - go for it!
-Please send me a reminder email when there is a new version of
-Nettamer that fixes the bugs & items listed by Tom, Walter, and
-Bob's various write ups over the past several years on known bugs
-that needed fixing.
-In the mean time, I certainly won't hold my breath awaiting any new
-beta version of Nettamer with all or any of the bugs fixed to be
-posted to the Nettamer web page.
-John Oram
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-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:50:29-0400
-On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 09:29:33 -0500, John Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-wrote:
-> Sam:
-> Simple Solution for Uncle Dave: He should have learned by now to
-> withhold some features for registered users only of his
-applications.
-If the "off-the-shelf" shareware version won't even work as it
-should, then Uncle Dave has to fix the bugs in order to get me to
-register it. My "one off" unregistered version of NetMail Pro does
-not have any of the features that the registered users have. BTW,
-as I have already mentioned previously, I am going to register
-NetMail Pro because Uncle Dave has fixed it for me.
-<snip>
-> The point I am attempting to make is, Uncle Dave is failing to
->serve and maintain his existing registered customer base by not
->providing them with the "latest & greatest" enhancements - which
->he can decide to charge an additional fee or maintain his
->original marketing philosophy of one payment and free upgrades.
-Uncle Dave's "one off" versions of Nettamer and NetMail Pro that he
-sent to me are not product enhancements. They are only bug fixes
-to deal with a certain idiosyncracy of my ISP. The "one-off"
-versions do not provide for any other bug fixes. The
-"off-the-shelf" versions will work just the same as my "one off"
-versions with a "normal" ISP. Anyone who has a problem like mine
-with an "off-the-shelf-version" could probably receive from Uncle
-Dave a free "one off" version if he would just
-write to Uncle Dave and give a description of the problem. The very
-same
-"one off" version that works for me might also work for anyone else
-whose
-ISP has the same peculiarity as mine. Perhaps Uncle Dave is curious
-enough to want to know if any other ISPs have this same peculiarity.
-For
-such a reason as this he might be holding off in uploading the "one
-off" version as an available download choice. Maybe he plans on
-putting up a notice on his web site advising users to download the
-"one off" version if they use any of the following ISPs: etc, or to
-try the "one off" version if they have problems with smtp with the
-"standard" version.
-> The problems I see as a software developer are, Uncle Dave has
->installed a lot of "trick fixes" for a lot of folks like you, Sam.
->And the larger population of registered users is still awaiting a
->whole lot of basic bug fixes. When inside some of those "trick
->fixes" sent to a few individual users are the basic bug fixes
->that the registered users are looking for.
-Perhaps the "trick fixes" are just fixes for dealing with the
-peculiarities of certain protocols running on some ISPs. I don't
-know of any "trick fixes" incorporating a general product
-enhancement consisting also of bug fixes that could be useful also
-for everyone else.
-> If you don't see my side of this coin, then we can choose to have
->a respectful disagreement of opinions as we have in the past on
->other issues.
-If we can determine that some of the "trick fixes" sent to certain
-individuals consist also of a general product enhancement, then we
-can find much room for agreement on this issue. If we are talking
-only about
-a "trick fix" to solve connection problems with a peculiar ISP, then
-this
-is not a general product enhancemnent that would be useful to people
-dealing with a "normal" ISP. For use with a "normal" ISP, the
-"off-the-shelf" versions are at least equal to the "one off"
-versions that I have.
-Regards,
-Sam Heywood
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