Kimberly De Vries wrote: > On 2/17/07, Armin Medosch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Later on you acknowledge the historical root, which I think enriches > your discussion. Here though, it sounds like you are saying that Open > Source sprang forth in the 90s, without precedent, which I think you > don't mean. So you might want to add some line that foreshadows your > historical discussion. --But on the other hand, this is me > deliberately reading as an impatient American, who expects everything > to be laid out step by step with absolute explicitness. So clarifying > this small point may not be very important, depending on the intended > audience. ... >> Open Source Culture got a big push forward with the emergence of Linux >> and the Internet but we shouldn't forget that it has much deeper roots. >> History didn't start with Richard Stallmans problems with a printer >> driver. The historic roots could be seen as going back to the free and >> independent minded revolutionary artists and artisans in 19th century. >> More recently, it is based on post-World-War-II grassroots >> anti-imperialist liberation movements, on bottom-up self-organised >> culture of the new political movements of the 1960ies and 1970ies such >> as the African American civil rights movements, feminisim, lesbian, gay, >> queer and transgender movements, on the first and second wave of hacker >> culture, punk and the DIY culture, squatter movements, and the left-wing >> of critical art and media art practices.
I would also add, in response to both Armin and Kimberly that the idea of sharing knowledge and tinkering with it yourself can even be evident in pre-western traditions of storytelling. The oral tradition of storytelling itself, which seems as old as language, can be seen as a mirror of the ideas of sharing information and supporting derivative works. >> by alliances between new and old tycoons. The Next Layer emerges at a >> time when capitalism is stronger than ever before and it emerges at the >> very heart of it. This is the beauty of it. It cannot be described in a Really? Stronger than ever? I think that's a big claim, but maybe being so involved with global anti-capitalist struggles, namely the diy media movement, the squaters movement in europe and the anti-capitalist struggles in mexico makes my view skewed. It seems to me that with the general collapse of the WTO and the failure of the FTAA, colonial globalization and the neoliberal project seem to be waffling in my view. For some support for this idea, see my article CAFTA - The Last Free Trade Agreement? http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110255.shtml and the narconews article about oaxaca entitled The Popular Assembly Movement Advances While Neoliberalism Stalls http://www.narconews.com/Issue44/article2491.html ciao, lotu5 -- blog: http://deletetheborder.org/lotu5 gpg: 0x5B459C11 // encrypted email preferred gaim: djlotu5 // off the record messaging preferred # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: email@example.com