Thank you very much for doing this Nina. Frankly I was just 'bard stiff' after reading such flat, leaden prose by someone attempting and failing to antagonise whilst posing libidinously, apropos of celebrity
https://twitter.com/Bardissimo/status/973224337976315907 Have filtered under BS. Bronaċ On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 at 01:12, Nina Temporär <nina-t...@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > Wow, nettime’s very own James Damore moment - > And hardly anyone calls him out. > > I cannot believe how easily so many people here allowed A.B. to > intellectually-click-bait > them into a discussion just because he whispered the magic words „Marx“ > and „class“, > And willingly delivered him material to refine his language for his > pseudo-philosophical > White male ängst-driven project, > Even after he had already lashed out in a dangerously generalized way > against academia, > After he had already generally denounced identity politics as self-pity > and whining, after he > Had claimed gender & race as having no social realities, after he had > judged the welfare > State as an infantilization of society and, on top of all, had totally > ridiculously indulged himself > In a teenage-like invention rage of cock-culture-worshipping neologisms > that he obviously enjoys > To decorate his little short-20th-Century binary phantasy land with. > > While a few of the answers with serious reactions to the classism question > were really a > Pleasure to read and very much worth considering under different premises, > I don’t understand > why almost nobody here (except for Alice, Ian, and Florian - thanks for > your interventions) did see > The contradiction that the very same people he claims to be wanting to > work with in that new class > War he dreams of, get insulted so badly and in a hierarchy-reproducing > manner, that a future > Cooperation is being boycotted before it has even started. > > Is that really only a sad lack of strategic thinking? Or not rather > revealing how inclusive his > New class war phantasy actually is, and whose perspective he expects to be > adopted as > Conceptual lead? > > There is a big difference between disagreement and lashing out in a way > that reveals absolute > Entitlement, and even worse: the assumption to be „safe“ when stating such > stuff in a place > Like nettime mailing list. > > It’s so tiring to be forced to point out, once more, that entitlement is > key in this problematic: > > While Alexander and his followers have very well understood that investing > into digital literacy > Is an absolute necessity if they want to survive in these times, any > knowledge update in relation to > Gender & anti-racism debates is shrugged of as community-specific > expertise (and commented > With the reproach of having an only self-healing effect) instead of > understood as the fundamental, > Constitutive (not so new) change of perspective, without which > no thorough analysis of class > Struggle can withstand. > > It was really interesting to read Dan’s report/ analysis of the beginning > of ‚identity politics‘ in the US > (In Europe, I assume, this is a slightly different story) and > his acknowledgement/ claim that it is his > Generation's own fault not to have passed on the historic context to the > next generation. > I would really like to engage in this discussion by asking if it is really > about the lack of history in a > Negative sense, or, if the (assumed) lack of history/ continuity might not > be expression of a generally > Positive phenomenon: the attitude of a generation being sick of any kind > of further waiting and gradual > Development, legitimately bold enough to demand full acceptance here and > now - even if this leads to > A roundhouse-kick-radicality that sometimes feels moralizing and partly > unfair even to antecedent > activists. (And no, I am not part of that generation and often enough > annoyed myself, but try to > Understand.) > > I’m not keen of discussing it in a context, though, where Alexander Bard > can blatantly display his near-hatred > Anger on certain minority activism without being sanctioned, just days > after a shooting in a synagogue and > Lethal threats to critics of Trump, with daily Police brutality towards > POC, regular attacks on homes for asylum > Seekers in Germany, harassment of anti-Trump academics in the US > and similar harassments of academics > Criticising right-wing politics now - even structurally organised - by the > AfD in Germany as well, and ongoing > And normalised discrimination of and assaults on women. > Incitement to violence is a spark easily ignited these days. > > Last but not least, I have the impression A.B. never really had to speak > up for himself against a mainstream > Opinion, otherwise he would know how much courage it takes and that it is > no way just 'fighting for one’s > Own good‘ but helps numerous others affected by that norm, and that > keeping quiet and adapting, even at > The high price of ongoing unfair treatment, is often the easier way. > > It seems to be necessary to point out that repeating just a mainstream > opinion, once it is tumbling and > Forced to open up to multi-perspective views, does n o t count as such. > > Best, N > Ps: Alice and Ian, your mails arrived while I wrote this, thanks again > > > Am 03.11.2018 um 18:30 schrieb Brian Holmes <bhcontinentaldr...@gmail.com > >: > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 7:11 AM Felix Stalder <fe...@openflows.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018, 6:07 AM Alexander Bard <bardiss...@gmail.com wrote: > > >> > # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission > # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, > # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets > # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l > # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nett...@kein.org > # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject: -- Bronaċ
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