thanks!

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:26 AM David Garcia <
d.gar...@new-tactical-research.co.uk> wrote:

> Felix wrote:
>
> > Mozorov puts lots of emphasis on her lack of engagement with other
> > theories of contemporary capitalism and her unwillingness to considers
> > options beyond the market. And, really, not even Wikipedia is ever
> > mentioned (expect as a source once) and Free Software only in relation
> > to Android and Google's strategy to dominate it. Thus, she never asks
> > why such alternatives exist and what could be done to support them. So,
> > the only alternative we get is Apple, the company, as Richard Stallman
> > famously put it, that "made prison look cool”.
>
> I am also reading this large tome in bits and moments.. But so far I
> actually do feel
> there is more engagement other theories of 'contemporary capitalism’ than
> she is being
> given credit for by Mozorov. She goes into some detail on the relevance of
> Hannah Arendt’s
> complication of Marx’s concept of 'primitive accumulation’ (page 99) with
> regard to Google’s
> discovery of the potential for exploitation of the vast quantities of our
> ‘behavioural surplus’
> which they simply seized as the new ‘virgin rain forest’ in the
> permissionless culture
> of Sylicon valley.
>
> Zuboff points out that Arendt complicates both Polanyi and Marx’s
> notion by pointing out that ‘primitive accumulation’ wasnt just "a one
> time primal explosion
> that gave rise to capitalism but a recuring phase in a repeating cycle as
> more aspects of
> the social and natural world are subordinated to the market dynamic.
>
> Zuboff then proceeds to show how David Harvey builds on Arendt’s writing
> with his notion
> of the “accumulation of dispossession”.. In this case of course we are
> being dispossed of our
> own most intimate life spaces..
>
> Coincidentally I was reading an interview with Harvey this morning where
> he asserts
> that “extraction and appropriation of value (often through dispossession)
> at the point
> of realisation is a political focus of struggle as are the qualities of
> daily life”
> hewire.in/economy/david-harvey-marxist-scholar-neo-liberalism
>
> So Zuboff provides useful explanetory and rhetorical tools to more
> aggressively contest
> these new sites of accumulation.
>
> Of course I am quite early and I am sure that many of the flaws spotted
> are accurate
> but lack of engagement with other theories of capitalism doesnt seem to be
> quite correct.
>
> She is certainly able to draw multiple familier threads together with some
> lucidity and anger which is
> an achievement. As well as the ‘guts’ and intellectual confidence to pick
> fights with powerful contemporary
> players whom she identifies as complicit with surveilance capitalism
> (which differentiates her from other
> highly placed scholars of the digital e.g. Manuel Castells).
>
> Although the extreme praise (the new Adam Smith or Marx etc) are probably
> ludicrous
> (so far and I am just a few chapters in) I think there is plenty of value
> to be found in the
> nearly 700 hundred pages.
>
>
>
>
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