On Wednesday 21 October 2009, Vickram Crishna wrote: > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM, jtd <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 October 2009, shirish शिरीष wrote: > >> in-line :- > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 21:52, Nagarjuna G. <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > http://dot.gov.in/miscellaneous/publicnotice.pdf > >> > > >> > and also see this > >> > http://www.medianama.com/2009/10/223-indian-government-wants-telcos-to > >> >-re gister-wifi-users-within-60-days/ > >> > >> This is definitely bad news for potential users of technology (including > >> me) > >> > >> Also, you apparently find it difficult to understand the notification. > >> Nobody is interested in users having passwords to log into private > >> networks, the notification asks for all users to be centrally > >> registered with the ISP. This is a backdoor method to empower ISPs to > >> begin identifying subscribers on the basis of numbers of users per > >> subscription ID, and the logical next step will be differential rates. > > > > The poster has got it wrong. The notification asks "All internet and > > Broadband users using WIFi connectivity" to register with the ISP. That > > is if you have an internet / broadband connection (that would include > > ADSL / LL / Dialup), AND use a wifi router, you have to register AGAIN. > > To get an internet connection you have to register anyway, nothing new > > there. > > Not quite. Here is the extract from the notification received by Tata > Communications, and hosted on their website (and quoted in the > MediaNama article): > > [I.a.iii: Licencee (Telco) shall ensure that unique user IDs and > Passwords do not have provisions for simultaneous multiple logins. > Licencee may give more than one use ID and Password to a single > subscriber for multiple for his Internet account
Afaik, you cant have multiple logins anyway. In the case of ADSL if i login to my isp from somewhere, yet another person from somewhere else cant login. > I.a.iv: Licencee shall put a clause in Subscriber Agreement of new > subscribers that any WiFi connectivity deployed by subscriber has to > be activated only after it is registered for centralized > authentication with the Licencee.] This too is already the case. No login no browsing. IMO Dr. Nags post of the notification implies what i said. But these extracts seem to mean something else, due to a misunderstanding of the login process. Unless of course i am obsolete and some new login process is in use. > This means not only that the subscriber has to register again > (naturally, as Mr Kaiz of MediaNama comments fame notes, you won't > mind spending that extra time, effort and paise to save your loved > ones from being, like Napoleon, blown apart), but that she must also > ensure that all her users (family members, guests) must also be > registered. Or else she gets the chop, chop, chop, in four months, and > the ISP can laugh all the way to the bank. In fact, this gives a > superb excuse for the ISP to cut off services to customers at will > (not that they really need excuses). And obviously none have heard of nating and proxies. As a security measure it is rubbish. As a monetizing tool, it is still rubbish. IMO, it clearly reflects the technical calibre of the people involved in this. No doubt antsocial elements have a field day making asses of the authorities. A doubt crosses my mind: Is the notification implying that ALL internet users must be registered, irrespective of their ownership of a net connection? If this is the case, the ramifications of the UID scheme is now clear. -- Rgds JTD _______________________________________________ network mailing list [email protected] http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in
