On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:58 PM, jtd <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 21 October 2009, Vickram Crishna wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:20 PM, Vickram Crishna <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:58 AM, jtd <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday 21 October 2009, shirish शिरीष wrote:
>> >>> in-line :-
>> >>>
>> >>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 21:52, Nagarjuna G. <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> >>> > http://dot.gov.in/miscellaneous/publicnotice.pdf
>> >>> >
>> >>> > and also see this
>> >>> > http://www.medianama.com/2009/10/223-indian-government-wants-telcos-t
>> >>> >o-re gister-wifi-users-within-60-days/
>> >>>
>> >>> This is definitely bad news for potential users of technology
>> >>> (including me)
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, you apparently find it difficult to understand the notification.
>> >>> Nobody is interested in users having passwords to log into private
>> >>> networks, the notification asks for all users to be centrally
>> >>> registered with the ISP. This is a backdoor method to empower ISPs to
>> >>> begin identifying subscribers on the basis of numbers of users per
>> >>> subscription ID, and the logical next step will be differential rates.
>> >>
>> >> The poster has got it wrong. The notification asks "All internet and
>> >> Broadband users using WIFi connectivity" to register with the ISP. That
>> >> is if you have an internet / broadband connection (that would include
>> >> ADSL / LL / Dialup), AND use a wifi router, you have to register AGAIN.
>> >> To get an internet connection you have to register anyway, nothing new
>> >> there.
>> >
>> > Not quite. Here is the extract from the notification received by Tata
>> > Communications, and hosted on their website (and quoted in the
>> > MediaNama article):
>> >
>> > [I.a.iii: Licencee (Telco) shall ensure that unique user IDs and
>> > Passwords do not have provisions for simultaneous multiple logins.
>> > Licencee may give more than one use ID and Password to a single
>> > subscriber for multiple for his Internet account
>> >
>> > I.a.iv: Licencee shall put a clause in Subscriber Agreement of new
>> > subscribers that any WiFi connectivity deployed by subscriber has to
>> > be activated only after it is registered for centralized
>> > authentication with the Licencee.]
>> >
>> > This means not only that the subscriber has to register again
>> > (naturally, as Mr Kaiz of MediaNama comments fame notes, you won't
>> > mind spending that extra time, effort and paise to save your loved
>> > ones from being, like Napoleon, blown apart), but that she must also
>> > ensure that all her users (family members, guests) must also be
>> > registered. Or else she gets the chop, chop, chop, in four months, and
>> > the ISP can laugh all the way to the bank. In fact, this gives a
>> > superb excuse for the ISP to cut off services to customers at will
>> > (not that they really need excuses).
>>
>> Actually, a rather amusing afterthought: seems that the government is
>> perfectly happy if subscribers use their Bluetooth phones to tether
>> their broadband 3G/Edge/EVDO connections to anonymous users. HDSPA
>> anyone?
>
> Ha Ha. Anonymous proxy on bluetooth? Dont know if cell phones have the juice
> to run  proxy/nat.
>
Newest comment at MediaNama from 'abc':
[Quite obviously the govt. never heard of TOR. Nor of encryption. The
cluelessness of our security "experts" astounds me. All i require to
send those messages in plain old voice is a one of the millions of
public phones. Aha I get it. We will use fingerprint scanners and face
recognition algorithms to identify potential suspects at public
phones. ]

Using my special decryption tools, also bought with unlimited funds
from GoI, I think I have analysed who 'abc' is. Now go answer the
doorbell. Hint: it's not a fingerprint scanner salesperson.

-- 
Vickram
http://communicall.wordpress.com
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