On Wednesday 15 September 2010 22:10:54 A. Mani wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 11:48 AM, jtd <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> If you are referring to China, then they do not practice
> >> 'classic capitalism'. They have a strong public sector and have
> >> been partly conquered by MNCs. They are much ahead in FOSS and
> >> are more self-reliant in IT.
> >
> > I have been to China several times in the 80's around the time
> > they went ballistic on capitalism. They were more "capitalistic"
> > than countries claiming to be so. With one caveat. You had to be
> > a party official above a certain rank to start a business - any
> > business. Or you had to be a foreigner with foreign exchange.
> >
> > This is not capitalism. It is cronyism, wherein qualifying
> > critirea did not have any logic whatsoever. It was gifting away
> > of the
>
> Only the party people would be trained and skilled enough to deal
> with politics and management.

HAHA. That made my day. The party blokes would wait for the likes of 
me and bejing uni tech grads to partner and show up at their 
residence. These jerkos did not have a clue about tech, management or 
imo, anything at all. 10 to 25% of profits or a fixed retainership 
varying form 10k to $$$$$$ - dollars my friend, US dollars, from that 
rottenly propagandist democratic country. Paid to some guy in HK. The 
price to  "deal with politics and management". 

> Their system had a much more effective form of democratic
> centralism before. Weakening of that due to accumulation of wealth
> in some hands and related problems is an issue.

Suggest you visit the gullies of these wonderful communist countries 
to divest yourself of any romantic notions of the wonderful 
proletariat or the dangers of accumulating (or disseminating ) 
wealth. 
The point being made here is that there are deep flaws in making the 
state ( it hardly matters that they are capitalist, communist, 
fascist, or some other label, as pointed out by Vickram ) an 
overarching controller of resources. Consequently one would do well 
to refrain from labelling (or recommending) ANY political system, 
while discussing free software.
IMO FreeSoftware is about empowering those who choose to get 
empowered. And that is anathema to all governments.


-- 
Rgds
JTD
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