On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:55 AM, jtd <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 06 October 2010 10:07:11 arjuna rao chavala wrote: > > > 2010/10/6 Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) <[email protected]> > > > > > On Wednesday 06 Oct 2010, Narendra Sisodiya wrote: > > > > This exactly is my question, How a organisation can sell > > > > non-profit work at reasonable low price. > > > > > > > > How possible alternate which is to sell blank DVD at 150 INR > > > > [For profit] and sending Free of cost DVD in separate DVD > > > > [totally non-profit] no shipping now. > > > > > > That's one of the reasons to avoid licences that explicitly > > > specify non- commercial in their objective. They make it next to > > > impossible to distribute the work in any form except its original > > > (web site, mailing list archive, etc.) Non-commercial licences > > > are also incompatible with both the Free Software and the Open > > > Source definitions -- though we're talking about artistic vs > > > software works, the same principles apply. So for instance you > > > cannot create a Linux distribution that includes photos or music > > > under a NC licence and sell CDs if you make even a paisa of > > > profit from those CDs. Sure, there are ways out (like the one > > > you specified), but they're ugly, unethical and basically twist > > > meanings to comply with the letter but not the spirit of the > > > licence. > > > > > > Just Say No to NC licences. > > > > > > GFDLthough a free software compatible license, allows for > > > > commercialization, as I understand from wiki page ( > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GFDL#Commercial_redistribution). If > > you have to earn your bread from your work, there is nothing wrong > > in using NC license, in my view > > All the guys publishing (freely distributable) music are making lots > of money - from the gigs and merchandising. Just get over your "horse > and buggy" money making ideas. > Modern methods of publishing and distribution have long obsoleted the > printed volume method. if you area able to get a publisher in the > first place. IMO not allowing a publisher to print and commercialise > is actually cutting your own feet. If you were such an hot shot > author, you might not be discussing this stuff anyway. > > <snip> What started this thread was a query on whether it was ethical/moral/legal for a *third party* to make money out of NC content, though I suspect it was the catch that even covering costs of distribution would be misconstrued as profit.
Here is a extract from the report "Defining Noncommercial ....."[1] which puts the question so clearly: Monetary compensation and cost recovery: Can a not-for-profit organization sell educational materials licensed for noncommercial use to a less-developed country? What if the organization only generates enough revenues from the sale of these materials to cover the costs of production and distribution? What if the organization earns one cent beyond cost recovery that they reinvest in the organization to help sustain its humanitarian operations? If a website redistributes music licensed for noncommercial use, is that website allowed to charge an access fee solely for the purposes of maintaining itself as a means of distribution for noncommercial music? What if this process unintentionally results in a profit for the site? The answer to all the above should be *yes*. The said report, unfortunately, does not define the answer so clearly... :). On the content : The govt. is really dragging its feet on both NPTEL and NCERT content - both of which should be made public domain or at least CC-BY. I do know that NPTEL is distributed by the NME-ICT project at the cost of postage and three hard disks = ~15K [2]. If they can do the same for NCERT, all one needs to do is mobilise awareness of the fact, so that they get a delivery list, rather than try taking on the onerous responsibiltiy of delivery - let alone the cost. Regards, Andrew [1] http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/17127 [2] http://nptel.iitm.ac.in/availability.php and http://nptel.iitm.ac.in/availability1.php _______________________________________________ network mailing list [email protected] http://lists.fosscom.in/listinfo.cgi/network-fosscom.in
