This is something I understand completely. But those bugs have been reported in great detail with logs and everything in launchpad. If it would be helpful I can find them in launchpad and place links here. Would it be helpful?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Dan Williams <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 00:00 +0300, Louigi Verona wrote: > > Hey, Dan! > > Thanks for the advice. I am certainly keen on helping the community to > > solve the problem, but the bug had been reported to launchpad with > > like a dozen duplicates. The daily builds were suggested as partial > > fix but since then I could get no information from anywhere and bug > > reports on launchpad do not seem to be updated anymore. My friend was > > asking me whether he should install Karmic and I couldn't say "yes", > > since if his first GNU/Linux experience would be like that, I think > > this would not be a good thing. So eventually I decided to contact > > this mailing list directly, so that I can get some firsthand > > information. > > > > My dream would be to get a new version of NM. Uninstall this one, > > install this one and have it work normally like it did in 9.04 %) All > > apps get bugs like this one sometimes - I am not complaining. I just > > want to know if something is being done and if yes - when is a total > > fix planned? To me it is a serious blocker. > > You can't realize that dream until we get some help in debugging the > issue so that we can fix the problem. We also can't do anything until > users help us debug the problem by answering the questions that I've > asked. > > Dan > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Dan Williams <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 09:36 +0000, Cian Masterson wrote: > > > 2009/11/17 Louigi Verona <[email protected]>: > > > > 2. When I boot the system, NM would try to automatically > > connect to some > > > > Wired connection lfupdown (eth1). It seems to be there by > > default. Since I > > > > have no wired connection, it of course, always fails. I > > cannot edit it, the > > > > Edit button is grayed out when I select this connection. I > > tried making my > > > > DSL connection automatically connect, but then it begins > > to ask for password > > > > and says again "Insufficient privileges" and I have to > > start over again. Is > > > > there any way to remove this default non-existing > > connection? > > > > > > This happened to me too, although in my case it was > > "ifupdown (eth3)". > > > This left my laptop with no network access because my wired > > > connection (which was eth5 in Jaunty) wasn't being > > recognised. I > > > tried editing /etc/network/interfaces by hand but that > > didn't work > > > either. Long story short I deleted /etc/network/interfaces, > > rebooted > > > the machine and eth5 magically reappeared and everything > > worked fine > > > after that. > > > > > > Better minds than mine will know what actually happened but > > I am > > > assuming that a missing /etc/network/interfaces forced > > Ubuntu/Network > > > Manager to re-scan the hardware or something. As per usual > > if you try > > > this route yourself I recommend > > moving /etc/network/interfaces to > > > /etc/network/interfaces.broken or something instead of > > deleting it. > > > YMMV but this worked for me. > > > > > > If people are running into problems like this on Ubuntu, the > > best thing > > to do to help debug the issue is to either file a bug report > > in > > Launchpad, or grab your /var/log/NetworkManager.log file, or > > if that > > doesn't exist /var/log/daemon.log and send it to this list so > > that we > > can try to figure out what's going on. > > > > Especially int he case of PPPoE/DSL, to debug further you can: > > > > 1) stop NetworkManager > > 2) as root, run NetworkManager like this: > > > > NM_PPP_DEBUG=1 /usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon > > > > 3) try to reproduce the issue > > 4) send the NetworkManager debug output to this list > > > > Dan > > > > > >
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