On Sun, 2003-02-16 at 07:12, Robert Wideman wrote:
> >> Win2k/XP/etc has IIS installed on them to be servers....do you
> >> consider this a
> >> good thing? or a secure thing?
> 
> M$ knows nothing about security.  I dont even think its in their dictionary.
> Rob

When NT was first in "beta" it was very closely matched to OS/2 - who's
security model was based on UNIX. As NT and M$ moved further away from
the original plan with IBM on OS/2 and NT, they're entire mentality
about security went that route. Nothing they promised 10 years ago has
come to fruition - but I almost believe this is by design as when one
looks at the "big picture", they'd not be able to constantly sell
updates and upgrades. If they had a great product in NT 3.51 or NT 4.0,
would anyone want to upgrade? If their security was absolute tops in NT
4.0, who would purchase Win2k?

They're a company that aims for profit - innovation in technology is NOT
their concern. Sophisticated technologies have been bought and buried
many times over because of the mighty profit. Ditto for computer
technology - with the exception of CPU technology.

The day that M$ gets serious about security is the day that they're in
the same boat that IBM is in now. Give 'em 10 years. When no one wants
M$ products anymore and they're using something else, M$ will stand up
and repeat the same IBM steps.
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