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September 12, 2003 12:53 am, Heather/Femme wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:03:43 -0400
>
> "Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 11 September 2003 11:18 pm, Heather/Femme wrote:
> > > but is that compatible with windows Winamp & stuff?  Ogg is not
> > > standard afaik to. so why use something most ppl don't use ?
> > > or am I missing something...?
> > >
> > > Space Lieutenant Femme
> >
> > Ogg is a pretty widely accepted/recognized standard. I send Oggs to
> > my Windows owning/Winamp using friends all the time. They don't
> > have problems with it, AFAIK.
> >
> > --
> >
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>
>  So lemme get this straight:
>
> you can't rip directly to MP3 in linux at all?? Only OGG? (which I am
> still leery about using...)...
>
> That seems very odd if I'm right.
>
> FF

Heather, repeat after me: 

MP3 is technically _not_ open source, has been for years a freely 
licensed proprietary compressed audio format, but the patent holder has 
the right to change that at anytime. Think license fees. Per copy. Or 
even per use if they can prove it. 

The old "software models" are broken, all the software companies that 
have no true innovation to offer are going to milk what they have for 
all they're worth. Maybe the bone heads should stop playing with models 
and concentrate on business? Just a thought.

Ogg is open source, free (speech and beer both) there are plug-ins for 
most of the newest PDAs and multi-media phones and even players for 
Windows, the Apple portable players are now available even though 
they're outrageously expensive, and others are coming on the market 
before Christmas. Cheaper ones. OK? Ogg also gives a better 
reproduction than mp3. It just sounds better to me.

You can encode MP3 from CDA format, you just need the right tools. The 
plug-ins are available for most of the rippers on the disks you have 
and the KDE (KAudiocreator) app actually gives you a choice of Ogg or 
MP3. I just looked. Grip does as well as far as I know, just look in 
the config tab for "encoder" and decide which you like. I've used it 
both ways, works brilliantly. Hint, mine shows lame, bladeenc, a few 
others, mp3 and ogg.

Scrape yourself off the ceiling and actually *look* at the tools you 
have at hand kid, you can do this.

Charlie
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Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org
Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-7mdk
00:58:42 up 11:17, 1 user, load average: 0.25, 0.56, 0.58
If your mother knew what you're doing, she'd probably hang her head and 
cry.
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