On Saturday September 13 2003 05:59 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> H.J.Bathoorn wrote:
> >On Sunday 14 September 2003 00:26, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
> >>I should clarify that --allow-force and --allow-nodeps does not
> >>automatically install without checking dependencies or force an
> >> install.
> >
> >Actually it does! check all the aliases to find out where Mdk
> > does all the handholding.
> >
> >Thatway you'll find out why "rm -r xxx" is a PITA on mdk:o)
> >
> >"rm -f xxx" solves that BTW or change the aliases. If you don't
> > know how.......don't!!!
> >That's another one up for the mandrakians:o)
> >
> >Good luck,
> >HarM
>
> I'm aware of the safety net implemented for the rm command, but
> what does this have to do with what I said?  --allow-nodeps
> whether an alias or a true option passed to urpmi does indeed ask
> you before it does its business.  The same with --allow-force.
>
> See "man urpmi":
>
> "--allow-nodeps
>               Allow urpmi to ask user to continue installation
> using no depen-
>               dencies checking due to error. By default urpmi
> exit immediately
>               in such case.
>
>        --allow-force
>               Allow urpmi to ask user to continue installation
> using no depen-
>               dencies checking or forced installation due to
> error. By default
>               urpmi exit immediately in such case."
>
> Alias or not, these are the actions of those options.

   Bet your life on it Brant?  My money's on HarM ;)

urpmi --allow-force --allow-nodeps --auto-select

    Will allow packages to be updated, and --ALLOW it without 
checking for dependencies, and will --ALLOW replacement of files 
and directories. I know it's supposed to ask, but it doesn't 
always, _if_ you include force. IE, (from man urpmi)
  --force
              Assumes yes on all questions.
               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--allow-force
              Allow urpmi to ask user to continue installation
 using no dependencies checking or forced installation due to error.   
 By default urpmi exit immediately in such case.


   Often as not it "Assumes yes on all questions", or just exits 
doin nothing. The first case can be a disaster, the second case a 
waste of time and bandwidth. These options should not be used 
except in rare cases. Nor should they with 'rpm'.  --force is good 
for re-installing already installed rpms of the exact same version/ 
patch level, to correct links and files. --nodeps is fine after the 
rpm packager admits a fsck'up in his/her %requires, and/or package 
and says it's no problemo.

    YMMV, stick around, you'll see ;>  alias safety nets have got 
nothin to do with it. (_Don't_ "use the --force, Luke" ;)   Anyway, 
ya just gotta ask yourself why t'hell you would want, or would need 
to regularly update everything with force an nodeps in the first 
place (?)  Specially cooker

   Better to go gently thru the night
-- 
    Tom Brinkman                  Corpus Christi, Texas


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