On Friday 09 April 2004 12:23, John Richard Smith wrote:
> Hoyt Bailey wrote:
> >On Friday 09 April 2004 06:23, John Richard Smith wrote:
> >>Andrew Archibald wrote:
> >>>On Thu, 2004-04-08 at 23:19, John Richard Smith wrote:
> >>>>cd /mnt/win_c2/downloads2
> >>>>downloads2]# ls -a
> >>>>./ dnloads/
> >>>> .Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso* ../
> >>>> .Mandrakelinux-10.0-Community-Download-CD1.i586.iso.segments*
> >>>
> >>>I've no idea why there is a '.' at the start of these file names
> >>> or what the '.segments' file is for. I imagine they are partially
> >>> downloaded copies? What download client did you use to get them?
> >>
> >>NT or D4X, as it's now known.
> >>
> >>>>Now the interesting thing about this iso file is that it has
> >>>>acquired "text file" icon status, when it was "unknown" icon
> >>>>status.
> >>>
> >>>What is "text file" icon status? Is this in a graphical file
> >>>manager?
> >>
> >>Yes, Konqueror.
> >>
> >>>The 'ls' command doesn't produce anything I'd describe as icons!
> >>
> >>No I should of made that clearer.
> >>
> >>>could you give a bit more detail on what you're seeing to worry
> >>>you?
> >>>
> >>>If you are worried about the integrity of a file (and I probably
> >>>would be given the weird naming) then the authoritative way to
> >>> test the file is using 'md5sum' ('man md5sum' for details) which
> >>> will compute an MD5 message digest. You then have to compare to
> >>> the one on the mandrake download site- if they match you have the
> >>> file in it's entirety, ready to burn to CD.
> >>>
> >>>A.
> >>
> >>No, I am not concerned here with the integrity of the file , not in
> >>terms of bytes , but in konqueror the icon that represents the file
> >>has changed from the usual "unknown" with a question mark, to the
> >>text file icon with a pencil over a page background, and I believe
> >>whatever is assigning this attribute to the file is doing it wrong.
> >>But as you previous email says the mandrake iso file is stored on a
> >>fat32 partition at the moment, I can change that if necessary, but
> >>something changed the attributes of the file to give the wrong Iso
> >>file icon to that file, I am probably worrying for nothing , but
> >> I'm curious to understand what has actually happened to the iso
> >> file to make this happen and indeed what I can do to correct it if
> >> any thing can be done at all. If you like I could move the file to
> >> an ext2 partition and work on it there , but is that really
> >> necessary ?
> >>
> >>You see for one thing the iso file , if it were burnt to CD as an
> >> iso file might have some errors in it's attributes ?
> >>
> >>Also if I attempt to write the contents of the iso file to CD is
> >>there a risk that the writer may have problems understanding what
> >>it's got to do ? I expect the writer simply reads the file endings
> >>and so .iso means it will set about writing the content of the iso
> >>file, if instructed ,to disc, but can this lead to problems if the
> >>original iso file itself has incorrect attributes assigned to the
> >>file in terms of what choice of Icon is used to represent it.I
> >> don't know. I'm Just currious, and don't really understand the
> >> basis of the rules that govern the matter. That is why I
> >> originally set about trying to find a programme that changes the
> >> attributes of files, not realizing that I had the file on a fat32
> >> partition at the time.Daft of me I know, but we all make
> >> mistakes.But even if I do move the iso file to an ext2 partition,
> >> will the chattr programme give me the means to change the icon
> >> attributes back to the customary
> >>questionmark icon. I don't know how to do that, and even after
> >>reading man chattr I still don't understand how to do that.
> >>
> >>sorry to labour the points.
> >>
> >>But I'm still interested to learn a bit more if I can.
> >>
> >>John
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>John
> >
> >1. I am more of a newbie than you.
> >2. Windows determines the file type from the .ext, it is my
> >understanding that linux does not.
> >3. Might it be possible that a file on a fat32 FS would be accepted
> > by linux as a text file since it hasn't been classified by linux
>
> Indeed that was my first thought, having been as it were brought up
> on windblows before coming to linux, but the same fat 32 partition
> hosts other .iso files where the icon is the usual question mark type
> and not a text file icon. So therefore I concluded, rightly or
> wrongly that it is the attributes of the file itself that are calling
> the shots as to it's file type and icon choice under konqueror.The
> upshot being that something, I don't know what, has changed the
> attributes of the .iso file itself and no matter how much konqueror
> may know it's an iso file it is being told to display a text file
> icon by the nature of the now bastardized file attributes ,itself. I
> conclude that there must be additional layers of attributes that are
> assigned to files and that access to them must be yet another
> proceedure.
>
> John
Reasonable. I have no other ideas.
--
Regards;
Hoyt
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