--- JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:33:58 +0200
> Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following:
>
> > Bofore doing any further USA-bashing, I'd like you to consider :
>
> I did not intend any 'bashing', as I said, I only meant to point out
> that this
> phenomena is present and growing (at varying degrees) in most of the
> Western
> world. I don't think you can ascribe it to socialism, conservatism, or
> whatever
> philosophy, which Hoyt seemed to be doing.
If Hoyt was ascribing negative retrograde constitutional evolution to
socialism in regards to erosion of rights then he is correct.
>
> > Can the police search your home at will ?
>
> Yep. The police in my country can detain me at will without charge, for
> any
> reason they see as a 'National Security Issue'. Nice, huh? And guess
> where we
> got that idea? Yep. From the good ol' US of A, which with the Patriot
> Act in
> effect, grants police there the same 'privleges'. And our government
> calls
> themselves 'The Liberal Party'. LOL!
Sorry, but you did NOT get that idea from the US. You are greatly
misinformed on the Patriot Act and it comes from the same socialist
propaganda that fed you other nonfacts. The police cannot search a house
without a warrant under the Patriot Act (and thus without a judge issuing
a warrant) in the United States. We have something called the Bill of
Rights, which by the way the socialists in the Democratic Party have been
seeking to erode. NOT the Republicans.
The fact is that since you have a Socialist government and since they
are responsible for the types of searches and seizures you suffer by your
authorities, it only stands to reason that your Socialist government is
the one responsible for it and not the Republicans. The Republicans have
no power either in your government or the ABC communist broadcast
networks. To point to conservatives in another country and blame them
for the decisions of a Socialist government is patently, well, not smart.
>
> > Can your government read your harddisk ?
>
> Oh probably, but then probably so can most governments, if they have
> the will.
> And there's just as many 'Conservative' governments as 'Socialist'
> among those
> that do. Right wing, left wing, they're all just as bad.
Not really, that's more propaganda and is also along the same lines of
thinking as moral equivalence, which is a supremely evil mode of thought.
The fact is that it takes a warrant to search a hard drive and again
that takes a judge to issue one. In the US, anyway.
At the risk of being classed as another "Greg Meyer", I would suggest
this thread should be moved to the MandrakeOT list where it can be more
thoroughly explored.
LX
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!
http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
____________________________________________________
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
____________________________________________________
