On Tuesday 24 August 2004 03:08, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > --- JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 02:33:58 +0200 > > > > Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following: > > > Bofore doing any further USA-bashing, I'd like you to consider : > > > > I did not intend any 'bashing', as I said, I only meant to point > > out that this > > phenomena is present and growing (at varying degrees) in most of > > the Western > > world. I don't think you can ascribe it to socialism, conservatism, > > or whatever > > philosophy, which Hoyt seemed to be doing. > > If Hoyt was ascribing negative retrograde constitutional evolution to > socialism in regards to erosion of rights then he is correct. > > > > Can the police search your home at will ? > > > > Yep. The police in my country can detain me at will without charge, > > for any > > reason they see as a 'National Security Issue'. Nice, huh? And > > guess where we > > got that idea? Yep. From the good ol' US of A, which with the > > Patriot Act in > > effect, grants police there the same 'privleges'. And our > > government calls > > themselves 'The Liberal Party'. LOL! > > Sorry, but you did NOT get that idea from the US. You are greatly > misinformed on the Patriot Act and it comes from the same socialist > propaganda that fed you other nonfacts. The police cannot search a > house without a warrant under the Patriot Act (and thus without a > judge issuing a warrant) in the United States. We have something > called the Bill of Rights, which by the way the socialists in the > Democratic Party have been seeking to erode. NOT the Republicans. > > The fact is that since you have a Socialist government and since > they are responsible for the types of searches and seizures you > suffer by your authorities, it only stands to reason that your > Socialist government is the one responsible for it and not the > Republicans. The Republicans have no power either in your government > or the ABC communist broadcast networks. To point to conservatives > in another country and blame them for the decisions of a Socialist > government is patently, well, not smart. > > > > Can your government read your harddisk ? > > > > Oh probably, but then probably so can most governments, if they > > have the will. > > And there's just as many 'Conservative' governments as 'Socialist' > > among those > > that do. Right wing, left wing, they're all just as bad. > > Not really, that's more propaganda and is also along the same lines > of thinking as moral equivalence, which is a supremely evil mode of > thought. The fact is that it takes a warrant to search a hard drive > and again that takes a judge to issue one. In the US, anyway. > > At the risk of being classed as another "Greg Meyer", I would suggest > this thread should be moved to the MandrakeOT list where it can be > more thoroughly explored. > > LX > Amen the proper place for this subject. -- Regards; Hoyt Registered Linux User #363264 http://counter.li.org
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