Hoyt Bailey wrote:

On Tuesday 24 August 2004 09:33 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote:

Dear list...

I am sorry for bothering you with this, but knowing that some of you
have Windows on your box, I rely on your forgiveness :

A week ago I had to buy a new PC for one of my daughters (14 years
old). She absolutely needed Windows in order to run some special,
school-related apps. The PC came with WinXP pre-installed.

The first thing I did was to install Mozilla, OpenOffice and some
sort of firewall, called ZoneAlarm. Now, I thought it was safe....

Suddenly, when she tries to send an e-mail (from within Mozilla, of
course, I'm not THAT stupid), up pops a message from our ISP saying
that the box is compromized, accordingly the smtp-server won't
accept the mail. In fact, her IP was blacklisted.

Some on-line security scans, revealed no less than 159 trojans,
worms and viruses !

After heavy googling around, I purchased a spyware/trojan scanner
called XoftSpy, which cleaned most of the shit. But nevertheless, a
spyware trojan keeps coming in (SAHAgent). No matter what I do.
(The bugger doesn't show up in ControlPanel --> Remove software).

Well, I know next to nothing about Windows, but before I subscribe
to a windows-list (which I would hate, really), I would like to ask
if you can recommend :

1. A good, reliable firewall for Windows (preferably OSS and free) ?
2. A spyware/trojan/worm cleaner capable of removing all malware ?
3. Shutting down the whole kaboodle and wait for SP2 ?

Many thanks and apologies in advance

Kaj Haulrich.

Kaj:
I know nothing about windows. But while I had XP installed it came with Norton. While running norton I never was infected with anything. But while installing XP the last thing I did was install norton and while downloading the database that was when I got all kinds of infection once the database was installed it was AOK. They do have on their website removers for most infections, IIRC you have to be a paid up member to get them ($15 or so).



Numerous tests have shown that Nortons is one of the slower scanners with a high CPU and memory footprint.
It isn't any more effective then any of the others, and its usually more expensive.


I look after allot of windows clients, and I've managed to keep them all virus free, and didn't use Nortons on any of them.
(though I might if I want to convince them to upgrade their PC's.)



-- rgds


Franki

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